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cptnspldng:
OK, I have read and/or listened to all the books and attendant short stories and novellas and I feel that I may have missed a particular plot point OR has our author still been holding out on us?

We 'know' because Harry has told us that Justin DuMorne was rendered into a crispy critter at the hands of Harry Dresden because he has informed us of the fact many times. We 'know' that Elaine was also presumed dead in the same conflagration. WHERE in all the books have we been presented with a detailed retelling of these events (a la the detailed remembrances of "Ghost Story") of Harry's fatal confrontation with his mentor?

Did I read it and just shunt the details aside in order to get on with the immediate peril in whatever story these details were presented in? If JB is still withholding relevant details from us, fine. We'll get the straight poop from him when he deigns to release the info and not before, but if I have truly missed the detailed retelling, please direct me to the appropriate tome.

In the first person storytelling mode we're experiencing, it makes sense that Harry is reluctant to divulge every detail of his last confrontation with his ward and mentor but when can we expect to see it? Is this the big choice that Harry makes in the "Mirror, Mirror" book? To follow Justin down the left hand path? Or later to succumb to the wolf belt in "Fool Moon?"

Now I'm branching off into other secenarios and I'm losing my original point. Harry vs. Justin, the final battle. Have we seen any detailed recounting of the events or are we all taking Harry's second hand word for the account of the events?

Your input would be appreciated.

Snark Knight:

--- Quote from: cptnspldng on October 31, 2018, 01:18:30 AM ---In the first person storytelling mode we're experiencing, it makes sense that Harry is reluctant to divulge every detail of his last confrontation with his ward and mentor but when can we expect to see it? Is this the big choice that Harry makes in the "Mirror, Mirror" book? To follow Justin down the left hand path? Or later to succumb to the wolf belt in "Fool Moon?"

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Jim's plot tease for MM was that the divergence started with the "big choice at the end of Grave Peril".

The readers have, to some extent, disagreed on exactly which big choice that was. The leading candidates were whether to tell Susan he loved her, whether to accept Ortega and Bianca's deal to give up Susan in exchange for peace, whether to fight or flea at Bianca's masquerade (which is stretching the definition of 'end' of the book since it's only about the 2/3 mark) or possibly whether to trust Thomas when he returns Amoracchius.

That last seems like less of an obvious big choice, but I've argued the case that it's potentially at least as consequential in terms of setting Harry's path afterward as the others.

As for a full flashback of Harry roasting Justin, though, no you haven't missed one. JB hasn't detailed that, and there's probably some reason. I'm hoping it's not a "Justin faked his death" reveal, though.

Mr. Death:

--- Quote from: cptnspldng on October 31, 2018, 01:18:30 AM ---We 'know' because Harry has told us that Justin DuMorne was rendered into a crispy critter at the hands of Harry Dresden because he has informed us of the fact many times. We 'know' that Elaine was also presumed dead in the same conflagration. WHERE in all the books have we been presented with a detailed retelling of these events (a la the detailed remembrances of "Ghost Story") of Harry's fatal confrontation with his mentor?

Did I read it and just shunt the details aside in order to get on with the immediate peril in whatever story these details were presented in? If JB is still withholding relevant details from us, fine. We'll get the straight poop from him when he deigns to release the info and not before, but if I have truly missed the detailed retelling, please direct me to the appropriate tome.
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We haven't seen the actual confrontation. The closest there's been (which might not even count) is in one of the comic books, I think "Welcome to the Jungle," which shows a few flashback panels of Harry, staff and rod in hand, facing off against Justin (whose cobra-head staff really should've been a giveaway as to which side he was on, really), with Elaine tied up in her skivvies at Justin's feet.

The confrontation takes place in an open field, and all we really see of the "fight" is Harry diving out of the way of a blast and firing back while in mid air, a la Max Paine.

How this reconciles with the bits of description we've seen elsewhere in the books is up in the air.

cptnspldng:
Thanks for the responses. My memory isn't anything to be trusted these days.

Mr. Death:
No problem.

My attempt to reconcile that depiction with the other descriptions runs sorta like:

Harry runs back, staff and rod in hand, and calls Justin out for a duel. Justin answers, coming out with Elaine tied up and in her skivvies as a distraction for Harry, which works -- either Justin wins the duel outright, or Elaine "betrays" Harry here and binds him.

Either way, Justin brings Harry inside and Elaine has him bound while Justin begins work on the enthralling spell. Harry then realizes that he can break out of Elaine's binding because, as he said in Summer Knight, he designed it. He blasts his way out of the binding and burns the house down, killing Justin.

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