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Please help with a play example
Bearclaw:
--- Quote from: Sanctaphrax on October 25, 2018, 08:32:21 AM ---Tags don't cost Fate Points; that's what separates them from normal invocations. I'm guessing this is meant to be a standard invocation.
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I meant to Invoke not tag. Thanks.
--- Quote from: Sanctaphrax on October 25, 2018, 08:32:21 AM ---Generally not worth it to use an Aspect just to avoid stress, for what it's worth.
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Yea, I was just going showing the kind of thing you could do with aspects.
--- Quote from: Sanctaphrax on October 25, 2018, 08:32:21 AM ---Neither maneuvering nor shielding is a supplemental action. Both take your turn.
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OK. It felt wrong when I read over it.
--- Quote from: Sanctaphrax on October 25, 2018, 08:32:21 AM ---Castillo still gets to take an action, even if his skills aren't good enough to make it worth much.
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I said that poorly. He did try, I just didn't want to spell out the mechanics on that one as I felt his Rapport of 2 didn't have much of a chance to overcome a Wizard's conviction. The Wizards was there for one reason, and it wasn't to discuss motivations.
--- Quote from: Sanctaphrax on October 25, 2018, 08:32:21 AM ---Also, you generally have to roll to put up a shield. Spellcasting is actually a multi-step process, involving gathering power and then controlling it.
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I skipped detailing that part. But yes, he rolled, and put up a force 4 shield with 2 exchanges of duration.
--- Quote from: Sanctaphrax on October 25, 2018, 08:32:21 AM ---On a tied maneuver roll, the resulting Aspect is fragile.
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OK, I didn't think about that. Still get the one free tag though, which is all I used.
--- Quote from: Sanctaphrax on October 25, 2018, 08:32:21 AM ---Given that Castillo has Athletics 5 and some level of Speed, he'd be better off defending with Athletics. Also, being a vampire, Castillo should have some amount of armour.
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I actually did think of that. He was trying not to use any of his powers, to keep his hunger low. And he figured he could beat a Wizard in a sword fight without drawing on the blood.
--- Quote from: Sanctaphrax on October 25, 2018, 08:32:21 AM ---So the shield provides armour 4, with sufficient duration to last through the round where Castillo didn't act? Quite a powerful spell.
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Sorry, it was a 4 point shield with two rounds of duration. Not 4 points of armor. That would be powerful.
--- Quote from: Sanctaphrax on October 25, 2018, 08:32:21 AM ---Did you mean Inhuman Strength when you wrote supernatural?
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No, he's upgraded. That's why he got +4 to his damage.
This is an NPC I'd already made for the groups first adventure.
--- Quote from: Sanctaphrax on October 25, 2018, 08:32:21 AM ---Armour usually doesn't stack. Actually can't remember whether armour from an Evocation is an exception; it hasn't come up in my game for quite some time.
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But a 4 point shield would still soak 4 points before being blown up, and then the 2 points of armor would soak more, right?
--- Quote from: Sanctaphrax on October 25, 2018, 08:32:21 AM ---Again, Castillo should have armour and a better dodge roll. And with Toughness, I'd expect him to have more than four stress boxes.
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I neglected the toughness when I wrote that. Just a mistake.
--- Quote from: Sanctaphrax on October 25, 2018, 08:32:21 AM ---Also, I don't see any reason to take a moderate consequence rather than a mild here.
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Right. If he'd already decided he was going to flee, it would be better mechanically to take a mild and 3 dots. Again, he's trying not to grow his hunger track, for reasons, so if he can avoid using his toughness or healing, he will. Also, of course, two wizards facing down a 600 year old vampire would use magic. I mostly just wanted to get in to aspects, and things you can do other than throw a punch.
Thanks for all the help.
Taran:
--- Quote ---But a 4 point shield would still soak 4 points before being blown up, and then the 2 points of armor would soak more, right?
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Shields don't soak up damage, they act as a block.
So, if someone attacks with attack 5 and the person dodges with 3 but they also have a shield block of 4, they would use the 4(the higher of the two values)
5-4= 1 shift of damage. YOu then add your weapon value of +4 or whatever, for 5 damage.
The important thing is if you had a shield block of 6 and an attack of 5 with the damage 10, you'd still take 0 damage.
If it 'soaked' damage, you'd still take 4 damage because of 10-6 (but that's not how it works). I feel like i'm not being clear. I think, maybe you are just confusing terminology.
A shield can be a BLOCK or it can be ARMOUR. It's important to differentiate. A block helps you avoid attacks while armour reduces damage after you are hit. So, they both work to lessen damage and stack with each other. But damage reduction(armour) does not stack.
Bearclaw:
So in this case, he's got a good dodge, he'd be better off casting it as 2 points of armor, rather than a 4 point shield.
Because the shield is a block. And you can block OR you can dodge. Not both.
Right?
Taran:
You can do both but you take the higher value. The advantage of using 2 point magical armour is it doesn’t go away when you are hit, the way a block dissipates if it is overcome. That said, the 2 point magical armour won’t stack with Kevlar. You just use the higher value
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