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Formorians and Outsiders

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Yuillegan:

--- Quote from: Wizard Sibelis on September 17, 2018, 02:40:54 AM ---and where is #8 proven at in canon... or anywhere else? Never have a seen that even hinted at that I recall..

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Con is correct - see the Even Hand story. But is makes sense too; they like to mishmash body parts.

Con:
I always thought the base in Lake Michigan was more of a portal to the Nevernever base of the Fomor. Like the portals to the Stone Table or Erlking's Hall outside Bass and Pro.

We also have their summary multiple times as being a conglomerate of a dozen different fallen pantherons and dark gods. Which is kind of the defitinition of Outsiders.

raidem:
I don't think the Fomor are Outsiders or exactly allied with Outsiders.  They are the Outcasts.  I think they were some of the ones responsible for defending the cosmos from the Outsiders before they got booted from it.  They seek revenge because they had power for a purpose and was deposed from that purpose and subsequently suffered a drop in power as a result.  It is stated they have some relation to the Fae. 

Avernite:
The Fomor, from our descriptions, seem a close match to fallen Hell. The Denarians and their hellish allies are the in-reality evil that good struggles against, but said evil does not want reality to be forfeit.

Hell of course tries to attract all kinds of talents to its ranks too, the Fomor are just more 'agressive' about it because, having lost so much power, they are no longer all-pervasive but also not all-constrained.

If the above is correct, dealing with the Outside seems a poor plan for them.

Kindler:

--- Quote from: raidem on September 20, 2018, 04:46:47 PM ---I don't think the Fomor are Outsiders or exactly allied with Outsiders.  They are the Outcasts.  I think they were some of the ones responsible for defending the cosmos from the Outsiders before they got booted from it.  They seek revenge because they had power for a purpose and was deposed from that purpose and subsequently suffered a drop in power as a result.  It is stated they have some relation to the Fae.

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Outcasts seem like good targets for temptation. Those looking back on their glory days may be susceptible to offers of power to retake their "rightful" place at the top of the food chain. In other words, they may not be literally mated with Outsiders or working for them directly, but their cause and motivation may be subverted to Outsider interests, be it through manipulation, deception, or deals.

Or, as with literally everything in this series: maybe Nemesis got all up in there to stir things up.

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