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Snark Knight:

--- Quote from: Darkest-Before-Dawn on August 23, 2018, 09:45:41 AM ---Baba Yaga seems to be a separate entity. Jim once used her as an example of mantle gaining (I think it was something like, if Mab offed Baba Yaga, she would have to become her, and the Winter Lady would get a promotion). The RPG also mentions her as a separate character, an incredibly powerful and mysterious maybe-fae who Simon Pietrovich is pretty terrified by.

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I mean, having to move up a step and be replaced as Queen by the Lady is exactly what would happen if Mab did pull off a coup on Mother Winter...

I'd call it inconclusive from the given info. Kringle and Vadderung are "technically" separate characters too, and I'd almost be surprised if both the Mothers don't have a range of different hats they can put on.

Rozarius:

--- Quote from: Snark Knight on August 24, 2018, 02:36:14 AM ---I mean, having to move up a step and be replaced as Queen by the Lady is exactly what would happen if Mab did pull off a coup on Mother Winter...

I'd call it inconclusive from the given info. Kringle and Vadderung are "technically" separate characters too, and I'd almost be surprised if both the Mothers don't have a range of different hats they can put on.

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Very much this. Also baba yaga is supposed to have iron teeth. Very few thing in any more have much to do with iron and she's one of them. Of course you also have red caps in Fey lore with their iron shod boots but that doesn't seem to be a thing from what we saw of daddy red cap. Then again he might be a red cap not the red cap.



As for The Nox thing it also fits with darkness connection she is literally the first night that then gave birth to the day.

Darkest-Before-Dawn:

--- Quote from: Snark Knight on August 24, 2018, 02:36:14 AM ---I mean, having to move up a step and be replaced as Queen by the Lady is exactly what would happen if Mab did pull off a coup on Mother Winter...

I'd call it inconclusive from the given info. Kringle and Vadderung are "technically" separate characters too, and I'd almost be surprised if both the Mothers don't have a range of different hats they can put on.

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Very true! They are thematically very similar characters so it wouldn't surprise me.

hamiltond:
I'm sure it's been discussed at some point but she is obviously The Cailleach, amongst other things.

Con:
Mother Winter has been confirmed as having multiple identities when Harry summoned her in Cold Days.


--- Quote from: Cold Days ---will. “Ancient crone, harbinger!” I began, then raised my voice, louder. “Longest shadow! Darkest dream! She of the endless hunger, the iron teeth, the merciless jaws!” I poured more of my wind and my will into the words, and the inside of my grave rang with the sheer volume. “I am Harry Dresden, the Winter Knight, and I needs must speak with thee! Athropos! Skuld! Mother Winter, I summon thee!”

Butcher, Jim. Cold Days: The Dresden Files, Book Fourteen: 14 (The Dresden Files series) (p. 311). Little, Brown Book Group. Kindle Edition.
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