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Is Lea stronger than the Winter Lady?

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Arjan:

--- Quote from: peregrine on July 21, 2018, 02:27:51 AM ---Yeah, but Jim (who knows better than Uriel) has said that it's possible to lose your soul even without turning into something other than human, if you're terrible enough.  So it probably does get whittled down bit by bit.

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Except that soul is a fuzzy word and loosing your soul can simply mean turning into something totally different, usually something bad, and loosing all that defined you.

The resulting person would still have a soul but not something recognizable as your soul. And it would be damned anyway.

peregrine:
Yeah, but as I recall, he was talking about someone being soulless.  Humans having no soul, as related to soulgazing.

groinkick:

--- Quote from: peregrine on July 21, 2018, 03:23:37 AM ---Yeah, but as I recall, he was talking about someone being soulless.  Humans having no soul, as related to soulgazing.

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Pondering the context of what Jim said, and Molly "losing" her soul.  What he may be talking about here is you transforming into something else..  Mind, body, and soul.  When you start off as a little baby you have a perfect soul, but if you go down the wrong path your soul may become tainted, scarred, and nothing like it started out as.  So perhaps the context of Molly losing her soul has more to do with her becoming Maeve, a completely different person where the person who was Molly does not exist any longer.

peregrine:
Given that Bob said that Harry could literally use up his soul with soulfire if he wasn't careful, I'm thinking it's more of a pure loss than transformation.  Possibly that becoming fae means losing the ability to replenish a soul (hugging, having teppanyaki, sex, etc...) so that over time, the wear and tear just grinds it down to nothing.

Carl:
Yeah the WoJ wasn't particularly subtle on the point. He was very explicit that you could lose it outright. But for Molly it's a slow process that can be resisted to varying degrees. Basically probability says she's going to lose it eventually, but she can theoretically prevent it for effectively forever.

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