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In Hindsight, These Story Choices Were a Mistake

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Quantus:

--- Quote from: Fcrate on July 19, 2018, 09:08:22 AM ---I agree, as for the part about adding something, that might be possible with careful planning and a direct link of mother to son. (I still think the part of the message from Maggie is a bit far fetched) The Fallen Angel, caught unawares with the gaze, had nothing to defend itself except shutting down the connection. I doubt it'd be able to hide anyway.
That still, I don't see what it had to worry about, probably the sight of it's true self would have left Harry a gibbering wreck (Shagnasty) and ripe for plucking.

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It wasnt a Fallen Angel, it was the guardian angel in the lobby of Cpt. Jack's police station.  It would have damaged Harry, and I suspect that it would have been far more sever than Shaggy (who was still pretty damn severe).

Fcrate:
The guardian angel closed Harry's sight, not a soul gaze. I was referring to that scene in the alley with Michael, Shiro and Sanya saving Harry in the end.
Looks like I didn't read your posts thoroughly enough, sorry.

vultur:

--- Quote from: Quantus on July 18, 2018, 09:41:55 PM ---That might be true, feels like it fits. The other thing about that whole scene is that I think makes it a particularly strange occurrence is what the Corpsetaker was at that point: was she a normal Ghost, or a disembodied Soul like Harry was?

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Disembodied soul, I think... I think the implication is that the Corpsetaker is attempting the same return-from-death trick that Kemmler used multiple times.

Although it might be hard to tell, someone like that probably doesn't have much left that a regular human would recognize as a soul any more...

I think the "southbound train" bit when the Grey Ghost-Corpsetaker is finally taken down clinches the issue, though... if she can go to Hell she must be a real soul, not just an echo-ghost.

Wizard Sibelis:
I can't remember, is there anything that says its Butters soul that's been trapped waiting to dissipate? I've always figured the act of taking the body would somehow allow the rebirth... or mayhaps a future feeding upon human sacrifice/soul power itself? But I just considered, what if she forces out the spirit/consciousness but the soul stays with the body in a reverse sort of soul steal technique?

Quantus:

--- Quote from: Fcrate on July 19, 2018, 10:48:47 PM ---The guardian angel closed Harry's sight, not a soul gaze. I was referring to that scene in the alley with Michael, Shiro and Sanya saving Harry in the end.
Looks like I didn't read your posts thoroughly enough, sorry.

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Probably my fault, I generally consider the Sight and Soulgazes to be two effects of the same ability, since Soulgazes are referred to as Sight (by harry in BR when he saw his mother) and are similarly indelible.  But it's a connection I always make but many do not. 

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