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Black Magic, Addiction, and Becoming a Warlock
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Mira on July 14, 2018, 02:30:39 PM --- There is a difference in who uses it, it is like who get a "high" off of either drugs or alcohol and are more prone to get addicted than those who either feel nothing or really dislike the effects on themselves, so less likely.. Maybe in the case of Black magic it is the power rush a wizard gets from using it? Harry describes the sense he gets from it as "nasty greasy feel," he also gets off of someone who uses it, not very pleasant... I wonder if a warlock feels or senses something different?
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I think every wizard sees, feels, hears or smells it different depending on his own nature. Just lie a soul gaze it is a highly personal interpretation.
groinkick:
--- Quote from: Mira on July 14, 2018, 02:30:39 PM --- There is a difference in who uses it, it is like who get a "high" off of either drugs or alcohol and are more prone to get addicted than those who either feel nothing or really dislike the effects on themselves, so less likely.. Maybe in the case of Black magic it is the power rush a wizard gets from using it? Harry describes the sense he gets from it as "nasty greasy feel," he also gets off of someone who uses it, not very pleasant... I wonder if a warlock feels or senses something different?
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I don't think it's like a drug, or high. I think it's just like someone who commits an act of violence for the first time, the second time it's easier, and before long it's just second nature. It's not like a drug, it's just they lose more and more of what you would consider their humanity, or morality or whatever. The warlocks also become insane with more usage. I think black magic is tied to the Outside which is why warlocks go nuts if they use it too much.
I watched a documentary on the history channel where passages from a nazi journal were read. He spoke of how physically sick it made him feel to execute people and his commanding officer told him it gets easier with time. Later passages he spoke of how it had become easy to do and he no longer felt bad about it.
That to me describes a warlock.
Wizard Sibelis:
--- Quote from: groinkick on July 14, 2018, 04:59:11 PM ---I don't think it's like a drug, or high. I think it's just like someone who commits an act of violence for the first time, the second time it's easier, and before long it's just second nature. It's not like a drug, it's just they lose more and more of what you would consider their humanity, or morality or whatever. The warlocks also become insane with more usage. I think black magic is tied to the Outside which is why warlocks go nuts if they use it too much.
I watched a documentary on the history channel where passages from a nazi journal were read. He spoke of how physically sick it made him feel to execute people and his commanding officer told him it gets easier with time. Later passages he spoke of how it had become easy to do and he no longer felt bad about it.
That to me describes a warlock.
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Now those two things are not mutually exclusive. Tim Robbins the self help guru mentions part of the reason violence and humanity will continue to be mutual things is because it fulfills enough of our basic needs. Iirc need for control, need for certainty(knowing what the gun in their face will do) AND uncertainty(how will it end?) and maybe a few other things. By his model anything that gives us at least 3 needs is liable to become an addiction.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Arjan on July 14, 2018, 04:47:27 PM ---I think every wizard sees, feels, hears or smells it different depending on his own nature. Just lie a soul gaze it is a highly personal interpretation.
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Which is the point, a brush with black magic affects everyone differently.. Some suffer no lasting effects if they manage to keep their head after one or two experimental encounters as kids are prone to do.. While others are well on their way to warlockhood..
groinkick:
--- Quote from: Wizard Sibelis on July 14, 2018, 05:34:21 PM ---Now those two things are not mutually exclusive. Tim Robbins the self help guru mentions part of the reason violence and humanity will continue to be mutual things is because it fulfills enough of our basic needs. Iirc need for control, need for certainty(knowing what the gun in their face will do) AND uncertainty(how will it end?) and maybe a few other things. By his model anything that gives us at least 3 needs is liable to become an addiction.
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Think you're talking about Tony Robbins. Yes I have listened to that talk of his. (His example was robbing someone at gun point) It brings uncertainty (action/variety/excitement), and, significance (you are really significant to that other person right now), fulfilling 2 of life's essential things. If memory serves he has 6 things? Certainty/security, uncertainty/variety, connection/love, significance, growth, and contribution.
Well to me an addiction is a type of high that a person gets and feels that they need to do or they feel horrible. So I don't see warlocks and black magic like that. I just see them twisting into someone who gets more and more comfortable with doing horrible things.
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