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Love Potion, Huge Violation of 3rd Law?
Paviel:
I think the closest that a potion (any potion) could come to violating the Third Law would be by tying someone down and forcing them to drink it. And even then, no magic would have been used in that process, so it might not even count.
Under any other circumstances, consumption of a potion is voluntary, and therefore does not violate the Third Law.
Mr. Death:
--- Quote from: Paviel on July 11, 2018, 07:12:32 PM ---I think the closest that a potion (any potion) could come to violating the Third Law would be by tying someone down and forcing them to drink it. And even then, no magic would have been used in that process, so it might not even count.
Under any other circumstances, consumption of a potion is voluntary, and therefore does not violate the Third Law.
--- End quote ---
Doesn't matter if it's voluntarily taken or not.
Altering someone else's mind is a violation.
Besides, you've never heard of someone drugging someone's drink? Choosing to drink something doesn't mean you willfully and knowingly consent to everything that's in that drink.
Paviel:
--- Quote from: Mr. Death on July 11, 2018, 07:15:05 PM ---Doesn't matter if it's voluntarily taken or not.
Altering someone else's mind is a violation.
Besides, you've never heard of someone drugging someone's drink? Choosing to drink something doesn't mean you willfully and knowingly consent to everything that's in that drink.
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The White Council disagrees, or else Morgan would have pressed charges against Harry for every potion he had ever brewed (all of which are mind-altering in some way).
Since the White Council has the sole authority to enforce its laws, and since it does not ban the production or distribution of potions, it follows that potions cannot be against the Third Law.
Immoral? Yes. Illegal? No. The Laws of Magic are not designed to legislate morality.
Mr. Death:
--- Quote from: Paviel on July 11, 2018, 07:17:59 PM ---The White Council disagrees, or else Morgan would have pressed charges against Harry for every potion he had ever brewed (all of which are mind-altering in some way).
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What? The love potion is the only potentially mind-altering potion we've ever seen him brew.
The escape potion had nothing to do with the mind. Nor did his 'ordinariness' potion. Or his rejuvenation potion. Or the weightlessness potion.
--- Quote ---Since the White Council has the sole authority to enforce its laws, and since it does not ban the production or distribution of potions, it follows that potions cannot be against the Third Law.
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OK, I really do not know where you're coming from with this. Not every potion is mind-altering or has anything to do with any of the laws.
Paviel:
Fact: Harry Dresden brewed a love potion in Storm Front.
Fact: Morgan never passed up an opportunity to get Harry into trouble as of Storm Front.
Fact: Morgan did not use the fact that Harry had brewed a love potion against him at the end of Storm Front.
Conclusion: Morgan does not consider brewing a love potion to be a violation of the Third Law.
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