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vultur:

--- Quote from: groinkick on July 03, 2018, 06:22:40 PM ---exactly.  Demonreach was the turning point and shortly afterwards he became Winter Knight.

Would Harry even need to make a deal with a Mab level entity?  If a warlock tapped into that lay line running through there he could probably take down the world.

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Nah, there's no way that it's THAT powerful. IIRC Luccio in SmF says that it's 1 of 4 major ley line sites in the area, one of the others being the Field Museum ley line which Harry used to reanimate Sue the T-Rex. The prisoners are really powerful, but the "body heat" ley line itself seems to be strong but not uniquely strong.

And even if it were, he only would have that power while on the island, which really limits what he could accomplish with it. At most, he could use thaumaturgy to explode people's hearts from a distance if he had hair/blood/etc... but Harry could do that anyway without Demonreach.

What makes the Warden really terrifying is the ability to release the prisoners (and use that ability as a bargaining chip to extract oaths from them first).

Wizard Sibelis:

--- Quote from: vultur on July 04, 2018, 01:17:17 AM ---Nah, there's no way that it's THAT powerful. IIRC Luccio in SmF says that it's 1 of 4 major ley line sites in the area, one of the others being the Field Museum ley line which Harry used to reanimate Sue the T-Rex. The prisoners are really powerful, but the "body heat" ley line itself seems to be strong but not uniquely strong.

And even if it were, he only would have that power while on the island, which really limits what he could accomplish with it. At most, he could use thaumaturgy to explode people's hearts from a distance if he had hair/blood/etc... but Harry could do that anyway without Demonreach.

What makes the Warden really terrifying is the ability to release the prisoners (and use that ability as a bargaining chip to extract oaths from them first).

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Uniquely evil/corruptive perhaps?

Quantus:

--- Quote from: groinkick on July 03, 2018, 07:36:58 PM ---Oh ok.  Of course they didn't stake claim to the Island and might not have full access to said Ley Line! haha

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Anyone touching the Island can access the Ley Line, be it a Denarian or Sharkface.  The Power boost of Claiming a Sanctum is a separate thing that is channeled though the spirit in question (Alfred in DR's case), and is something that Harry has been tapping ever since (at least he did a boatload of it during TC) where by contrast he'd very specifcally never tapped that Ley Line because he thinks it would change him in dark ways.  He's tapped the one at the Field Museum and at least one of the ones at CI, but those werent as qualitatively "Dark" of energy

Mira:

--- Quote from: Quantus on July 06, 2018, 01:21:36 PM ---Anyone touching the Island can access the Ley Line, be it a Denarian or Sharkface.  The Power boost of Claiming a Sanctum is a separate thing that is channeled though the spirit in question (Alfred in DR's case), and is something that Harry has been tapping ever since (at least he did a boatload of it during TC) where by contrast he'd very specifcally never tapped that Ley Line because he thinks it would change him in dark ways.  He's tapped the one at the Field Museum and at least one of the ones at CI, but those werent as qualitatively "Dark" of energy

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I believe what Rashid said was he wasn't ready to handle doing such a thing... page 299 Turn Co

--- Quote ---"First," he said,"do not tap into the power of this place's well.  You are years away from being able to handle such a thing without being altered by it."
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He could have meant it would turn him to the dark, but he didn't say that.. He only said that it would alter him, he may have meant simply that if he messed with it before he was ready he might be turned into a drooling idiot..

peregrine:
Agreed.  It's hard to say how it might alter him.

Yeah, maybe it'll turn him dark because "you are what you eat" and he'd get warped by all the negative vibes.

Or maybe he just doesn't have the skill and control to handle that much power without getting injured, physically or psychologically.

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