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Was Nemesis in Storm Front?
groinkick:
--- Quote from: jonas on June 23, 2018, 04:05:38 AM ---I've never been able to decide how I felt on that one. On the one hand dark magic and Nemesis are certainly connected, on the other I see no real reasoning why Nemesis would step in to protect Harry
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I wasn't saying that Nemesis protected him. I was saying that Nemesis was trying to get Harry to go bad, burn the home to ashes with everyone in it, and to become a warlock.
peregrine:
Was it Lea who connected Sells, the FBI agents and riling up the ghosts(?) as sharing an origin?
I figure that Nemesis was behind them, if not shown "on screen." Agents of Nemesis tainting Sells and Denton etc... And that probably we saw the process happening at the party in GP.
Right now it's hard to tell because we don't really know how much direct influence Nemesis has and how much "thought" it has or if it just feeds certain desires and ideas someone already has.
groinkick:
--- Quote from: peregrine on June 23, 2018, 05:14:18 AM ---Was it Lea who connected Sells, the FBI agents and riling up the ghosts(?) as sharing an origin?
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That's the impression I got
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: peregrine on June 23, 2018, 05:14:18 AM ---Was it Lea who connected Sells, the FBI agents and riling up the ghosts(?) as sharing an origin?
I figure that Nemesis was behind them, if not shown "on screen." Agents of Nemesis tainting Sells and Denton etc... And that probably we saw the process happening at the party in GP.
Right now it's hard to tell because we don't really know how much direct influence Nemesis has and how much "thought" it has or if it just feeds certain desires and ideas someone already has.
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No, it was Lily in Cold Days in the botanical garden meeting.
--- Quote ---“A disease. A parasite. A poison. Sir Knight, you must have seen it. You must have seen the contagion spreading. It has been before your eyes for years. It is a kind of spiritual malady. A mental plague. An infection slowly spreading across the earth. It changes that which ought not change. It destroys a father’s love for his family by twisting it into maniacal ambition. It distorts and corrupts the good intentions of agents of mortal law into violence and death. It erodes the sensible fear that keeps a weakly talented sorcerer from reaching out for more power, no matter how terrible the cost."
“Victor Sells the Shadowman. Agent Denton and the Hexenwolves. Leonid Kravos the Nightmare. My first three major cases.”
“Yes. Each of them was tainted by the contagion. It destroyed them.”
“Fourth case. Aurora. A champion of peace and healing who set out to send the natural world into havoc.”
“I saw what it did to her. I didn’t know what was happening to my friend, but I saw it changing her. Twisting her day by day. I loved Aurora like a sister, Sir Knight. But in the end, even I could see what she had become.”
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My take is that Lily was right, and that Maeve hadn't fed her a lot of misinformation. But that doesn't mean that Lily or the rest fully understand Nemesis.
My guess is that there's a corruption that can and is spreading through humanity that weakens the Super-Ego and leaves its victims with a boosted Id (sound familiar?). That's what has corrupted the mortals, and Nemesis can use it as a doorway to whisper into the minds of the corrupted.
But I also think Nemesis isn't as powerful as most people seem to think. I think Nemesis is the third Walker (Beside) and I like to speculate that Nemesis can only infect/possess three beings at a time; specifically those that lack the free will to prevent it. Once mortals go far enough, they can be possessed by Outsiders, but that's not really what we've seen so far.
groinkick:
My opinion is Nemesis IS the corruption. It sounds much like Hastur from Lovecraft
"Hastur (The Unspeakable One, Him Who Is Not to be Named, Assatur, Xastur, H'aaztre, or Kaiwan) is an entity of the Cthulhu Mythos. "
Hastur's main weapon is to instill insanity in it's victims minds. The people often create a symbol that they show to other people, and supposedly anyone who sees the symbol is capable of being influenced by Hastur.
I do agree that it's not all powerful. It may be similar to being connected to a Coin. Most people seem to succumb, but if the will is there they can refuse it.
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