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WAG.... Murphy has moved on
Mr. Death:
--- Quote from: Mira on June 17, 2018, 07:44:10 PM --- No, I don't think they do, or at least Murphy doesn't. Much of her advice, her observations of him, her fear of him and for him are based on the pre-Changes Harry... In short she'd like the old Harry back, but he ain't ever going to come back...
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Arjan:
--- Quote from: Mira on June 17, 2018, 07:44:10 PM --- No, I don't think they do, or at least Murphy doesn't. Much of her advice, her observations of him, her fear of him and for him are based on the pre-Changes Harry... In short she'd like the old Harry back, but he ain't ever going to come back...
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Actually some of it is comming back and he got a better handle on the things that did change. Just compare skin game Harry with cold days Harry and that becomes evident. Karen has a good grip on that. It is actually Butters who has not and caused serious problems because of that.
Skin game actually shows how deep their love goes and how closely they connect.
--- Quote from: Mr. Death on June 17, 2018, 08:06:08 PM ---[citation needed]
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That won't get you far. The story came to me and I got a feeling I know is true. It has been revealed to me on a deeply spiritual level. I know the truth about Karen and Harry because Mister told me in a dream. Of course you won't take my word for that because you are blinded by your misconceptions so I make up some quotes and abuse some scenes for evidence, it is all in the service of the higher truth. Because Karen and Harry are champions of Mister and they are destined for each other.
[But it is interesting how someone can get a feeling out of a book that is totally conflicting with anything written in the book. See it as a statement of feelings, wonder about it and go on.]
Avernite:
--- Quote from: Ananda on June 17, 2018, 12:17:04 PM ---Aesthetics and such aside, his life is a mess. He’s not even his own man anymore. What sort of relationship can people even have like that? One of settling and convenience, really. But as a real partner, Dresden isn’t able to offer much. In terms of just having some comfort or whatnot, he’d do for something casual if you were into his look and lifestyle. Then again, any nice looking guy who didn’t have expectations would be better for something casual as Dresden does have expectations while being completely unsuited to what he wants. In the future, if he survives and his life is his own again and no longer a shitshow, he might be a better candidate. Right now, though, his life is a disaster.
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He has a steady job with Mab, the shorts suggests he has a house all his own, he has a daughter to care for. And he's not a footsoldier or NCO anymore like he was as Warden in the Reds war, more like a senior officer now.
If at any time in the prior books his life was less of a mess, it must've been when Susan was still human.
forumghost:
Eh, is it really a steady job when you don't get paid, your boss only shows up to give you an assignment every few months, and literally owns you? Harry isn't employed, he's enslaved by a horrifying monster- one that has corrupted his mind to the point where he has to constantly struggle not to commit rape and murder. In SG he was only able to help Butters by convincing himself/the Mantle that Butters was a possession that someone was trying to steal from him.
Harry isn't exactly in a great spot in a lot of ways.
Mira:
--- Quote ---Actually some of it is comming back and he got a better handle on the things that did change. Just compare skin game Harry with cold days Harry and that becomes evident. Karen has a good grip on that. It is actually Butters who has not and caused serious problems because of that.
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No, she doesn't, she sees the externals, but because she bases it all on what she used to know about Harry, and lectures him as to why isn't he like that now and how concerned his friends are that he isn't like he used to be, she is clueless... She doesn't ask questions nor does she really listen to him.. Murphy in truth is a very closed minded person, not saying she is bad, but she has her ideas and stands by them. That is what I think has driven me away from the character, it is like knowing your eleven year old, and thinking the same formula/lecture will work when he or she is twenty-five and has lived in the world... This is how she treats Harry... The biggest proof is what happened with the Sword after what she told Harry, that speaks volumes about her not trusting him on so many levels in spite of her love for him.
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