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WAG.... Murphy has moved on
Mira:
--- Quote from: raidem on July 02, 2018, 08:30:47 PM ---See. I think Michael was allowed free will. And he could use his free will with the Grace, while Uriel couldn't even do that. Therefore, I see that Michael having the Grace and being in that position has more flexibility than had it reside in Uriel. So, Uriel counted on achieving more with it than he could have done by himself. Of course, the immediate use was to heal Michael so as to allow him to intervene successfully against Nic. I think though Uriel needed to have his Grace on the mission to Hades realm.
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Michael has free will because he is a human, while one could argue that he could do anything he wanted with the Grace, he didn't.. It was matter of trust on Uriel and by extension God's part that he wouldn't abuse that trust.. As Uriel put it, paraphrasing, Uriel handed over his 747 jet power Grace so Michael could use the overhead light, both he and God trusted Michael to use only the over head light.. Anything more could cause Uriel to fall, and possibly Michael with him because of the trust violation.. Michael did not violate that trust, so the answer is no, Michael did not use Uriel's Grace to heal Harry's back, though he had the free will to do so, or not...
Mr. Death:
Yeah, the question is -- would Uriel have fallen if Michael used Uriel's power in a way normally limited by the rules, or would Uriel have only fallen if Michael used Uriel's power in a way that is counter to Uriel's nature?
raidem:
Mr. Death gets it in delineating the issue.
I think Michael could use Uriel's power in a way normally limited by the rules without harming the Grace and subsequently Uriel. And, I think Michael's free will with the Grace allowed him to do things that Uriel could not do. That said, Michael was very careful in limiting his actions while holding the Grace so trying to tease out Uriel's strategy with the Grace is a bit difficult. The most likely event is that Michael attempted to convince Nic not to sacrifice his daughter when he gave he "GraceSpeak" upon entering Hades. And then Michael further attempted to get Nic to see what the Fallen had made him sacrifice. Each act was consistent with either Grace, or Knight of the Cross. But it could be that Uriel would have been unable to intervene with the discourse perhaps?
peregrine:
Part of the thing may be that Michael has the power but not the knowledge to use it. We see something like that in The Warrior, but it's possible that Michael could have used Uriel's power to do something that he thinks is right, and that even seems like the proper thing to do, but has unforeseen consequences or violates some of the more subtle rules governing it.
Mira:
--- Quote from: peregrine on July 02, 2018, 09:54:44 PM ---Part of the thing may be that Michael has the power but not the knowledge to use it. We see something like that in The Warrior, but it's possible that Michael could have used Uriel's power to do something that he thinks is right, and that even seems like the proper thing to do, but has unforeseen consequences or violates some of the more subtle rules governing it.
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Exactly, or Michael says what power he has come from the Almighty working through him. As to the Grace, it is very specific in Skin Game, Michael was loaned Uriel's Grace for a specific job, no coloring outside the lines no matter what good he might have done doing that. Michael understands that and he'd not abuse that no matter how much good he thinks he could accomplish doing it.. It is like when he was still an active Holy Knight, as much as he might be tempted to go ahead and kill a Denarian that has surrendered at his feet, even one who deserves it, he won't because that breaks the rules for the Sword and for Holy Knights. His place if one surrenders is not to judge but to let the Denarian go to seek or not redemption in the life remaining to him or her. A violation of that has serious consequences, i.e. the possible breaking of a Holy Sword... A violation of the terms of taking up Uriel's Grace is the same thing, in this case the fall of an archangel would be the consequence.
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