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Mr. Death:
Mira: Yes, it is absurd, because regardless of whether Murphy brought the Sword, Nicodemus still caught Butters snooping on his secret crime plan and then caught Harry helping Butters.

That alone gives Nicodemus full rights to kill Harry. There is no way that Nicodemus would not pursue and attempt to eliminate Butters, because that is how anyone planning a crime of that scope works, and there is no way Nicodemus would let Harry's betrayal -- and it was obvious to everybody that that's exactly what it was -- slide if he does not get something out of it in return.

When a member of your super secret crime crew betrays you, you deal with them. That's how criminal enterprises have worked forever, in reality and in fiction.

Suggesting that the entire scenario exists solely to destroy the Sword -- which Nicodemus admits he wasn't certain was in play -- and that Nicodemus would not have attacked Butters or Harry otherwise, flies in the face of common sense and goes against even the basic understanding of how someone like Nicodemus works.

groinkick:

--- Quote from: raidem on June 20, 2018, 03:26:31 PM ---Assuming Murphy is Mab or becomes Mab or becomes some Mantled individual and Anduriel/Nicodemus knows it, what is Nicodemus aiming at with his interplay with Murphy and say Mab.  Is he trying to poke an eye at Mab by screwing with Murphy, one of her prior reality past selves?

That is my take anyway.  Nicodemus knows who Mab is and is poking Mab by beating the hell out of Murphy.  And Mab is poking Nic by screwing him over with the plot of Skin Game.

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He did work with Mab in the past, lending her Anduriel.....

raidem:
Which is why I think Nicodemus knows who Mab is. Add to that Nicodemus is older than Mab, we get the question then is who is Mab?  Somewhere, Sometime, Mab's identity will become relevant.

jonas:

--- Quote from: Arjan on June 20, 2018, 05:42:35 PM ---But that is futile because:

Mouse == Mab

Clearly the superior theory. Proof? Better alliteration.

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All you seem to do here anymore Arjan is troll idea's you don't like...
*vehemently disagree, argue evidence to the contrary, ignore them, ect. Don't sit there and make tasteless jokes on people's idea's as a way to cut at them.

Arjan:

--- Quote from: Mira on June 20, 2018, 05:30:58 PM ---You are missing the point, it isn't about how good Murphy is with the Sword, or that she beat him... It is all about what she did after he surrendered.   It was about her saying "damn you," then attempting a killing blow, the Sword wouldn't allow itself to be used that way and the additional insult of breaking the rules got it broken.. Remember back in Grave Peril when Harry tried to kill Lea with Michael's Sword and it fell out of his hands?  Michael said it wouldn't allow itself to be misused like that,  Lea scooped it up to take to the party to bargain with for the Knife, and it was to be used in a sacrifice to be unmade... 

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The sword broken was the least important part of the whole affair. Michael understood as he told Harry before the sword was remade:


--- Quote ---Michael smiled at me a little. “You’re a good man, Harry. But you’re making the same mistake Nicodemus always has—and the same one Karrin did.”
“What mistake?”
“You all think the critical word in the phrase ‘Sword of Faith’ is ‘sword.’”
I frowned at him.
“The world always thinks that the destruction of a physical vessel is victory,” he said quietly. “But the Savior was more than merely cells and tissue and chemical compounds—and Fidelacchius is more than wood and steel.”
--- End quote ---

Everyone who thinks saving that wood and steel is more important than saving Harry and Waldo makes that same mistake.

Which brings us to the important decision and that is not what she did when Nicodemus did his mock surrender, she knew she was not knight material and that she would place saving Harry above saving a denarian soul. The important decisions were bringing the sword and risking it to save lives. That decision was made earlier.

After that all her decisions were made under heavy pressure and she was following her nature. she did what she thought was best and she achieved a lot. She saved the day. She deserves recognition for that. Especially since I did not really read a better action plan here and we had years to think about it, she had to decide immediately.

Murphy did well, even better than she herself thought.

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