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Are the Old Ones also locked out?

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groinkick:
I get the impression from the books that the Old Ones are not locked out with the Outsiders.  Is that wrong or what?  If they aren't locked out the same as the Outsiders, why is that?  I'm curious about the relationship they have.... 

Slowpool:

--- Quote from: groinkick on June 13, 2018, 05:46:30 AM ---I get the impression from the books that the Old Ones are not locked out with the Outsiders.  Is that wrong or what?  If they aren't locked out the same as the Outsiders, why is that?  I'm curious about the relationship they have....

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  I think (correct me if I'm wrong) that the only real info we have on them comes from Harry earlier in the series, and Carlos in Cold Case.  Harry implied that the Outsiders were servants of the Old Ones, or something along those lines.  Or at least that the Walkers were knights of their kind.  Carlos seems to think they're one and the same, and that the Old Ones are just who happen to be trapped on Earth instead of Outside.

Zohak:
According to lovecraft the family tree would go like this
 
https://www.yog-sothoth.com/wiki/index.php/Azathoth_Family_Tree

https://i.imgur.com/bmwHo.jpg

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timeline
https://www.yog-sothoth.com/wiki/index.php/Cthulhu_Mythos_Timeline

Quantus:
AFAIK the Old Ones are a type or group of Outsiders, and as far as Outsiders in the DV go they are all either Locked outside the Outer Gates and trying to break/sneak back in, or else are Imprisoned somewhere on Earth.  The imprisoned ones are also called Sleepers, and would include the ever-famous Cthulu. 

jonas:

--- Quote from: Quantus on June 13, 2018, 12:23:06 PM ---AFAIK the Old Ones are a type or group of Outsiders, and as far as Outsiders in the DV go they are all either Locked outside the Outer Gates and trying to break/sneak back in, or else are Imprisoned somewhere on Earth.  The imprisoned ones are also called Sleepers, and would include the ever-famous Cthulu.

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DR holds the sleepers to be awoke according to Maeve's gleeful villainy plan spill.... I could see them being the Old Ones. As they actually do exist in reality, but are just forced out by, more or less, a wormhole/pocketdimension existence.

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