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Summoning Molly

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twobee:
The impression I have gotten is that any mortal with magical talent can summon beings from the Nevernever. How accurate and effective that summoning is depends on how well prepared the summons is, which is enhanced by how familiar the summoner is with the target. A quick a dirty summons with no preparation, such as shouting "Mab,Mab, Mab, I summon thee!" while inside a magic circle would only work if the target was impatiently tapping her foot saying "Come on, Dresden, get your act together!" But a summons by someone who knew enough about the subject and took the time to properly prepare would compel the subject to come whether they wanted to or not. Now, the danger is that if you summon someone powerful without good reason, they may decide to smite you. Also, the summoning could be thwarted if the target was somehow prevented from coming. There are 2 examples I can think of where that came up, namely when Lea couldn't respond because she was trapped in Arctis Tor, and when Dresden tried to thwart the necros from summoning the Erlking by trapping him in a circle

Paviel:
I think a bigger question than whether Harry could summon Molly is whether it would ever occur to Harry that he could.

Remember, Harry can be mind-controlled thoroughly enough to forget about his blasting rod (as he was in Small Favor), and it seems to me like Mab could just as easily ensure that Harry never makes the connection between summoning Sidhe and Molly being Sidhe.

In fact, it should be even easier for Mab to do that now that he is her Knight.

vultur:

--- Quote from: Paviel on June 26, 2018, 12:45:19 AM ---I think a bigger question than whether Harry could summon Molly is whether it would ever occur to Harry that he could.

Remember, Harry can be mind-controlled thoroughly enough to forget about his blasting rod (as he was in Small Favor), and it seems to me like Mab could just as easily ensure that Harry never makes the connection between summoning Sidhe and Molly being Sidhe.

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Harry might well not think of it because he still sees Molly as human.

Mab altering his mind to forget about stuff might be an "only works once" thing. Especially since the situation in SmF was favorable to it - Harry was concentrating on proving he wasn't still being influenced by Lash. Now that he's Winter Knight worrying about Mab's influence is on his mind a lot more.

 Also, he's learned significantly more about mind magic since then, and also about himself. I don't think that sort of influence is going to work very well on Harry from now on. He needed Lash's help to resist an Outsider mental attack in WN, and there's damage; he defeats it himself without problems in CD.

Now, Mab can probably compel him using Winter Law, but compelling his actions is different from subtly altering his thoughts so he doesn't notice. We saw Fix being compelled in PG, but he was aware of exactly what the limits were.

wardenferry419:
I thought that there was text that Harry's mind is an exceptionally togh nut to crack.

Arjan:

--- Quote from: wardenferry419 on June 27, 2018, 09:31:27 AM ---I thought that there was text that Harry's mind is an exceptionally togh nut to crack.

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Mab has an excellent nut cracker and she enjoys it so much...

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