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Summoning Molly
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Talby16 on June 12, 2018, 05:23:46 PM ---I think it also has to do with the hierarchy and perception of the "proper order of things." A lesser power being should not summon a higher powered one in the same hierarchy. The lesser powered being goes to the higher powered being. It is a demonstration of deference and respect. The situation with Mab on DR was a special case. I do not think Mab would take kindly to a Knight summoning her, the Lady, or the Mother on a regular basis as it undermines their authority. You don't summon a more powerful being without consequences (now or later).
The nature of the summoning must also be taken into consideration. We saw Harry summon Toot Toot with just an offering and a whisper. That is very mild and not likely to cause concern. Whereas summoning involving a ring and ritual is more serious. A summoning on DR as others have mentioned is tantamount to holding a loaded gun on someone.
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I think it mostly has to do with whether the senior of the two agrees with the Summoning itself. Molly was able to summon Mab in Cold Case without rebuke but the situation, and more importantly Mab's own duties as the Lady's Trainer, made it permissible. Even Mother Winter didnt...entirely object to Harry's Summons in Cold Days, and she was forced to make the trip and get him even though it caused her pain. She made use of the encounter, but interestingly she did not send a proxy to go get him and avoid her travel issues.
jonas:
--- Quote from: Quantus on June 12, 2018, 04:57:27 PM ---GodDAMMIT!!! That makes sense. A lot of Sense. Fuck, those poor kids.
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No, no, no... Think about Amanda Carpenter being on the level with Leah... those poor dupes who stand in her way! ..... Damn, you know, I kinda see the cynical beginnings of Leah in her too. Mmm... if Molly were in actuality Mab then..
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--- Quote from: jonas on June 12, 2018, 05:41:31 PM ---No, no, no... Think about Amanda Carpenter being on the level with Leah... those poor dupes who stand in her way! ..... Damn, you know, I kinda see the cynical beginnings of Leah in her too. Mmm... if Molly were in actuality Mab then..
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I cant imagine that without having to imagine some horrible way for her to actually amass all that power. Lea was known for being a vampire muse and impressed mab by managing to use the desire to Create Beauty (ie Artists) to increase her "dark and evil power". Jenny Greenteeth liked to drown children and the elderly. Let Amanda go have a promising career in, I dunno, Law Enforcement or engineering or something so steeped in computers that the supernatural world just looses all interest in her.
Mira:
I think he could have summoned her, he may even have tried, but apparently Mab has a way of blocking it or simply forbidding Molly to answer.. Remember when Harry tried to summon Lea, but she was under "treatment" on ice, thus Mab came in her stead.. So I have no doubt that Mab was keeping a close eye on both of them so a summoning could not happen..
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Mira on June 12, 2018, 06:01:46 PM ---
I think he could have summoned her, he may even have tried, but apparently Mab has a way of blocking it or simply forbidding Molly to answer.. Remember when Harry tried to summon Lea, but she was under "treatment" on ice, thus Mab came in her stead.. So I have no doubt that Mab was keeping a close eye on both of them so a summoning could not happen..
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According to the OP, it was confirmed by Jim at the most recent signing that Indeed he could have summoned her but did not (in the book he said he'd been sending various types of messages but didnt mention a direct Summoning), though Jim wasnt sure how it would have gone over.
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