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*Spoilers* Bigfoot On Campus

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Mira:

--- Quote from: Quantus on June 05, 2018, 09:28:58 PM ---There was a WOJ that the first time they were just hyper-horney teenagers drunk at a party.  Love came later, but her Hunger had already had it's first feed by then.  Cant seem to find it atm, I thought it was in the index.

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 It must have been only a nibble because if I remember right for the Hunger demon to be fully engaged the feeding has to be until death....   I believe that's how Papa Raith entrapped Thomas, it's been so long since I read the book, but didn't he get Thomas drunk and out of control then into bed with some poor young woman?  Who Thomas promptly had sex with and fed on until her death?  From then on the Hunger was fully engaged...  If true love happens before the first kill the Hunger is burnt out.

Quantus:

--- Quote from: Mira on June 06, 2018, 11:31:15 AM --- It must have been only a nibble because if I remember right for the Hunger demon to be fully engaged the feeding has to be until death....   I believe that's how Papa Raith entrapped Thomas, it's been so long since I read the book, but didn't he get Thomas drunk and out of control then into bed with some poor young woman?  Who Thomas promptly had sex with and fed on until her death?  From then on the Hunger was fully engaged...  If true love happens before the first kill the Hunger is burnt out.

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Nah, you have it right.  The catch here was Pounder:  as a half Forrest-Person (that seems an awkward term), he has a ridiculously huge amount of Chi.  It was the reason he was being targeted in at least two of the stories.  In Bigfoot on Campus it let him survive their first meeting (which iirc her father had arranged and maybe even "pushed" with the expectation that he'd die.   Basically he was too big of a meal for Hunger to actually finish off, which is the only reason he was able to survive.  Arguably makes them a good fit too, since he's not in much danger from her even if she looses control. 

And if it comes to it, his dad is, like, the biggest turn-off...    ;D 8) ::)

Fcrate:

--- Quote from: Quantus on June 06, 2018, 11:47:01 AM ---And if it comes to it, his dad is, like, the biggest turn-off...    ;D 8) ::)

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Heh.
It has nothing to do with how huge a bite her Hunger takes, the act of death itself is needed to make her a full vampire. Much like the late Red Court, I'd guess. She'll remain a minor league succubus till she kills somebody while feeding, as her hunger has already been roused. She'll never be fully human.

Quantus:

--- Quote from: Fcrate on June 06, 2018, 01:01:08 PM ---Heh.
It has nothing to do with how huge a bite her Hunger takes, the act of death itself is needed to make her a full vampire. Much like the late Red Court, I'd guess. She'll remain a minor league succubus till she kills somebody while feeding, as her hunger has already been roused. She'll never be fully human.

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I didnt think that was theory, pretty sure it was the actual explanation given in Bigfoot on Campus.  I dont have my copy with me though, Ill check when I can.


EDIT:  Oh, right, I can buy Brief Cases now!  Yup, there's a whole big conversation in there about how the actual Death is not a metaphysical requirement, rather it is a "character building" initiation that is a tradition of the Wraith family. 

It makes sense if you think about it: the whites are not like the Reds that are actually Loosing their Souls which requires them to fully Choose it (in a Free Will sense).

ntribley:
The question I had after reading it was, why hasn't the love they have for each other now caused problems? It certainly did for Thomas and Justine, and how it protected Harry from Lara. To say they don't have real love yet doesn't sound right. Pounder nearly pounded Connie's Dad to death because he was hurting her. Certainly a more obvious sign of love than what Inari and Bobby had going for them.

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