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Saints
Quantus:
--- Quote from: groinkick on June 05, 2018, 07:54:30 PM ---I also would say that in my opinion a Saint would be using Creation based magic (not corrupted by dark magic). In other words I don't think a wizard who's devout to the old gods, or a dark god could be a Saint.
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Especially with this new definition of Saint from Jim, I really dont think a Saint is going to be at all restricted to Heaven, Creation, or any of the Abramhic themes. Those will be present and well represented, granted, but they would not be restricted to the Christian world; there will be eastern ones too, and african shaman, and probably a variety of them in South America (pre-changes) where Faith is a more critical survival tool.
I'd be willing to bet money that whatever old tibetan priest-monk is in charge of the place Mouse came from could easily be a Saint, for example.
On a darker side, a true Believer in the historic worship of Odin is not going to be a nice person by modern standards, and almost certainly will have more destructive capabilities than creative ones (though they might be an decent poet).
And that's just things that we'd still call the "Good Side", but there are literal "Dark Gods" locked up in Demonreach and they all presumably had worshipers once upon a time, some of which likely also had magic and no other school of thought to provide them with the Control they need.
Kindler:
--- Quote from: Quantus on June 05, 2018, 07:50:01 PM ---What passage are you looking at in GP? The one I found was Blue there too. That I recall it's always somewhere on the spectrum from Blue up to a more blinding white (though that might have only been Charity, not Harry)
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Was it? I'll take your word for it. I didn't have the book in front of me, but I remembered the light being different in Grave Peril and Fool Moon.
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: Quantus on June 06, 2018, 11:56:03 AM ---And that's just things that we'd still call the "Good Side", but there are literal "Dark Gods" locked up in Demonreach and they all presumably had worshipers once upon a time, some of which likely also had magic and no other school of thought to provide them with the Control they need.
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If nothing else, it makes a lot more sense now how the Loup Garou curse could have been originally a saint's work, when taking away the free will of an entire bloodline worth of hosts to make them into murderous beasts is antithetical to the Almighty's values.
exartiem:
What is called a Saint in the Abrahamic traditions might be called a hero in other faiths. The greek heroes might have been practitioners.
Also, a saint might not have been a full-fledged wizard. He might have been more like a one-trick-pony, like Bender, the Alphas or Mort.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Snark Knight on June 06, 2018, 02:17:16 PM ---If nothing else, it makes a lot more sense now how the Loup Garou curse could have been originally a saint's work, when taking away the free will of an entire bloodline worth of hosts to make them into murderous beasts is antithetical to the Almighty's values.
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Are you sure about that? He has his moments.
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