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Are there more wizards like Elaine?
Quantus:
--- Quote from: LordDresden2 on June 01, 2018, 04:20:45 AM ---There almost certainly are some other Council-level 'wizards' who hide their power and ability from the Council, but there aren't likely to be very many.
Why? For one thing, Council-level potential is rare. There aren't very many people in the world who have even the potential to reach that level to begin with. Of them, the majority probably never get trained to the point where it matters, or else end up blowing themselves up or getting beheaded experimenting on their own.
To become a Council-level talent requires both that raw potential, and training to use it, and it's hard to find the kind of training that will bring you up to Council-level except from Council-level adepts.
Harry and Elaine, for example, if they had been adopted out to normal people and not Justin DuMorne, would likely never have come anywhere close to realizing their potential power. They might or might not have learned to use some magic, but without high-level training they'd probably have remained minor players or worse..
DuMorne, of course, was a rogue Council member.
It's going to be a rare, rare person who can reach Council-level without the proper training, and it's going to be rare for anybody not linked to the Council to be able to provide it.
There are several thousand Council members, IIRC. That sounds like a lot, but that's out of closing in on 8 billion people. I doubt if there are more than, at the most, say a 100 people in the world with Council-level talent and training who are not part of it.
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All very true. The counterpoint though is that there are actually a lot more Council-level talents Now than there ever have been thanks to the 20th century population boom. The problem isnt that these talents dont exist, it's that more often than not the council gets to them too late to stop them from going Warlock (stupid jedi mind trick) and end up chopping them up rather than training them. And while the Council is Public Choice, they are far from the only clued in organization out there with an interest in the sorts of things a Mortal Wizard can do. Literally every single Supernatural Power out there is going to have mortal practitioners stashed away somewhere, and Im willing to make that as blanket a statement as possible. Id say even the Church likely has a few, though most of the clergy wouldnt realize their true power. It would be pretty easy to recruit away from the organization who's opening recruitment move is to explain that one day s/he might be back to chop off your head if you misbehave. Especially if you can offer the sorts of perks that Lara, Marcone, Bianca, LEA, etc etc etc could offer.
WereElephant:
--- Quote from: Quantus on June 01, 2018, 11:54:37 AM ---It would be pretty easy to recruit away from the organization who's opening recruitment move is to explain that one day s/he might be back to chop off your head if you misbehave. Especially if you can offer the sorts of perks that Lara, Marcone, Bianca, LEA, etc etc etc could offer.
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Practitioner head hunting. Magic use never felt so...corporate.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: WereElephant on June 01, 2018, 12:12:22 PM ---Practitioner head hunting. Magic use never felt so...corporate.
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Indeed. The whole reason the White Council Fears the Black Council is that they'd be offering an obvious alternative
Avernite:
--- Quote from: Quantus on June 01, 2018, 02:08:22 PM --- Indeed. The whole reason the White Council Fears the Black Council is that they'd be offering an obvious alternative
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Still, that serves as a suitable counterpoint to the "standard" Supernatural powers having a pile of Wizards. If they did, the Black Council would be just more of the same.
Plus, the Red Court did not trot out a pile of them when it gathered the premier part of its power at Chichen Itza, and their spell was all Blood. We know some Vampires do learn, but they're not using a stash of Human wizards (and Changes suggests very few of the non-LordsofOuterNight Vampires were wizards, since they had no magical impact on the battle apart from Arianna in the duel - and she was aiming to take her place among the Lords).
SerScot:
--- Quote from: LordDresden2 on June 01, 2018, 04:20:45 AM ---There almost certainly are some other Council-level 'wizards' who hide their power and ability from the Council, but there aren't likely to be very many.
Why? For one thing, Council-level potential is rare. There aren't very many people in the world who have even the potential to reach that level to begin with. Of them, the majority probably never get trained to the point where it matters, or else end up blowing themselves up or getting beheaded experimenting on their own.
To become a Council-level talent requires both that raw potential, and training to use it, and it's hard to find the kind of training that will bring you up to Council-level except from Council-level adepts.
Harry and Elaine, for example, if they had been adopted out to normal people and not Justin DuMorne, would likely never have come anywhere close to realizing their potential power. They might or might not have learned to use some magic, but without high-level training they'd probably have remained minor players or worse..
DuMorne, of course, was a rogue Council member.
It's going to be a rare, rare person who can reach Council-level without the proper training, and it's going to be rare for anybody not linked to the Council to be able to provide it.
There are several thousand Council members, IIRC. That sounds like a lot, but that's out of closing in on 8 billion people. I doubt if there are more than, at the most, say a 100 people in the world with Council-level talent and training who are not part of it.
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I see your point. Most would lack the training and finesse to “fake” the tests.
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