The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Are there more wizards like Elaine?
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Avernite on June 25, 2018, 08:15:05 PM ---Well, we don't know exactly all Margaret Dresden did to get onto the Council's list-for-punishment. For all we know she was far beyond anything like a single lawbreak by the time she broke up with Raith (or maybe hooking up with the enemy, being a political crime, has no such principles for reformation and education as a Warlock has).
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Per Eb in BR she was suspected of things and generally had loud and unpopular views, but the only Law they were after her for was a violation of the First Law.
Of Course, in Eb's defense it one thing to be able to stand up for a Teenager who has clearly never had a full education, and quite another to ask for the Doom on a student that has nominally completed Eb's schooling already and /still/ when dark. I could see the council saying that Harry was still young but Maggie had already had her chances and made her adult choices.
LordDresden2:
--- Quote from: Quantus on June 25, 2018, 09:22:34 PM ---Per Eb in BR she was suspected of things and generally had loud and unpopular views, but the only Law they were after her for was a violation of the First Law.
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I don't have the book handy, but IIRC he said something to the effects of 'the First Law, among other things'. I think Margaret was pretty far gone by the time she was on the run from the Council.
LordDresden2:
--- Quote from: Bacchus on June 25, 2018, 06:47:37 AM ---i feel the need to point out that pre Internet, paranet, and mass information sharing, it would have been almost impossible to self train yourself without a rebel wizard of some sort teaching you directly, or stealing books from practitioners likely much stronger than you.
Now though you could probably have a weaker paraneter download scores real magic spell books deep on the bit torrent network or the darknet and print them out for a paranoid young wizard. id say give it 50 years to develop and that situation with secret council level mages will increase exponentially.
im talking about the apprentice stages because after the basics wizards don't seem to need much outside help to improve.
for example i downloaded dozens of rare old occult books once just to skim through, there were WAY more available.
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But keep in mind that the Council is eventually going to start making sure that those sources are 'reviewed', esp. for anything touching on the Seventh Law.
Also, in the age of the Internet, now you'll have to figure out who to trust and who to run from fast. How does a self-training talent know to trust the Paranet but ignore the Metanet (which is secretly run by the White Court)?
wardenferry419:
Metanet? Is that a theory or actual thing?
Mira:
--- Quote from: Quantus on June 25, 2018, 05:22:15 PM ---Given that he seemed to have a pretty negative view of the Council even /with/ his experience living with Eb, I'd assume that he'd be at least as distrustful if he'd learned about their idea of "justice" prior to being caught by it. The real catch would be that he'd still need somebody to tell him about them ahead of time. Which, now that you mention it, is a little conspicuous on Lea's part. If she actually thought warning him against them was in his own best interest, she'd have been bound by her Godmotherly duty to warn him. It's a little telling that she did did apparently believe that turning him over to them was the best thing for him, either to be taught by them or to simply learn to Survive them (or both). But she must have had a reasonably strong confidence that they wouldn't actually kill him, or she'd have warned him when she had the chance.
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That is what is odd, because even though the Council treated him like crap, he didn't rebel like his Mom.. Nor was his view of it entirely negative, his approach could be called a bit more passive/aggressive..
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