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Elaine pentacle amulet

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wardenferry419:
I, still, have a sneaky feeling that Justin was Elaine's real father and not adopted father. The amulet is Harry's link to his mother and Elaine's amulet is her link to Justin.

Fcrate:
But Elaine was adopted after Harry was. Are you suggesting that he had her hidden somewhere?

groinkick:

--- Quote from: Fcrate on June 01, 2018, 12:46:15 AM ---But Elaine was adopted after Harry was. Are you suggesting that he had her hidden somewhere?

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Could be that the mother had taken her, even hidden away from Justin with her and when he found her....  You can imagine what he'd have done.

Kindler:

--- Quote from: groinkick on June 01, 2018, 02:11:16 AM ---Could be that the mother had taken her, even hidden away from Justin with her and when he found her....  You can imagine what he'd have done.

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Yeah, it's possible she was raised by a single parent, away from Justin, who eventually tracked her down.

That possibility aside, I find it very hard to believe that Justin wouldn't use his biological paternity as leverage against Elaine in his manipulation; orphans are starving for familial affection. If Justin told Elaine that he was her father, he very, very likely wouldn't have ever felt the need to even try to thrall her.

Avernite:

--- Quote from: Kindler on May 31, 2018, 03:17:07 PM ---I see two possibilities.

First, the philosophical background comment concerns Harry's mom and Elaine's parents/parent. The pentacle doesn't make sense as representative of Harry's philosophy, as he didn't pick it; it was inherited. If anything, he based his philosophy on his understanding of what it represents. Does that make sense to anyone else? If it held any innate philosophical meaning, it would be based on the one who makes it. So, if Elaine's amulet is inherited, then I think it'd say more about her parents—maybe that they were allied, or familiar with, Margaret (for reference, I always call Harry's mom "Margaret" so I can keep references to her separate from Harry's daughter, Maggie). Couple the pentacle with her potential to be a Starborn, and I think it's a fair guess that her parents knew what Maggie was trying for, and did the same—either as allies, or rivals. It's no accident that both Harry and Elaine were orphaned, too; I think it's likely that they were both orphaned because of their births—essentially, because of who their parents were and what they were trying to do.

But Harry really learned his philosophy from Ebenezer; Elaine didn't have that kind of apprenticeship. She went from being abused by Justin to working for Summer, and I somehow doubt that the Fae taught her much like Eb taught Harry.

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Uhm, Harry learned his philosophy from Ebenezar, sure - but partly so did Margaret, his mother, even if she clearly veered off quite a bit from Ebenezar's ideas. Hence there's a pretty good chance her pentacle means exactly what Harry thinks ;)

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