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AI and Magic
RobReece:
even if an AI acquired sentience, that wouldn't give it a spirit, without that, would it even be able to perceive much of magic? outside of any physical manifestations of course.
groinkick:
It comes down to 2 questions "Why do mortal humans have magic?", and "Can real sentient life forms be created via technology?" The first question probably has an answer, the 2nd question is hotly debated in the real world and one I don't know if Jim would even bother to tackle unless Harry goes to the future. The future of the Dresden Files appears to be the opposite of advancement and more about mass destruction of civilization... So I don't think there will be advanced technology.
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: RobReece on May 14, 2018, 06:33:52 PM ---even if an AI acquired sentience, that wouldn't give it a spirit, without that, would it even be able to perceive much of magic? outside of any physical manifestations of course.
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Dresdenverse magic has been presented as being beholden to the laws of physics. If magic is an energy field, an AI might be able to figure out how to access it artificially.
--- Quote from: Kindler on May 14, 2018, 02:35:54 PM ---Interesting thought about a Spirit of Intellect. It's basically what happens in Age of Ultron.
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Ultron's a good example, but I'd say it'd likely be more like Vision. There'd probably need to be a catalyst (magical version of the mind stone) to gain sentience, at least within the timeline of the series. A SoI could be that catalyst, or a magical being that could create a SoI with a machine on the cusp of sentience.
Still, a long shot, and likely something we'd never see.
peregrine:
--- Quote from: groinkick on May 14, 2018, 07:05:08 PM ---It comes down to 2 questions "Why do mortal humans have magic?", and ... The first question probably has an answer,
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That answer is mostly yes. Note that Butters, a Mortal, can energize a circle of his own volition. Jim has also said that the main difference is that Wizards can perceive the forces they're manipulating, while Mortals lack those senses, so they'd be doing magic blind, deaf, and numb. Plus the ability of Three Eye users to see magic. And then the soulgaze which requires a Wizard to happen, but does go both ways.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: groinkick on May 14, 2018, 07:05:08 PM ---It comes down to 2 questions "Why do mortal humans have magic?", and "Can real sentient life forms be created via technology?" The first question probably has an answer, the 2nd question is hotly debated in the real world and one I don't know if Jim would even bother to tackle unless Harry goes to the future. The future of the Dresden Files appears to be the opposite of advancement and more about mass destruction of civilization... So I don't think there will be advanced technology.
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Im not sure how #1 factors in, since there are tons of magic-using entities that are not humans, bob being the ideal example.
Regarding #2, In terms of the DV, how do you define Created? Would creating a technological container for a Spirit count, or would you want a more ground-up genesis on the scale of like the Dragons creating the dragons?
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