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Jim Butcher interview from 2 months ago
jonas:
--- Quote from: Quantus on May 11, 2018, 11:29:15 AM ---It implies that Necromancy is not innately Black Magic as we'd been led to believe. Id always considered that one one of the more simlistic Laws since it was more banning a qualitative Energy rather than an Act; it banned the Method rather than the motivation. Id taken it to mean that Necromancy was in itself a Black Magic energy that innately Tainted you (comparable to say Outsiders), and that eventually he'd pay some Price for Sue
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Sir Stuart explained it I think. Ghosts and other spirits are not supposed to pierce the veil to manifest or otherwise directly effect mortals... I think part of that is that mortal choice/fate thing. But a necromancer is empowering things that go directly against that on both accounts, bringing it back through and giving it a direct tie to his own mortal magic, the ability to effect fate. Remember it's always kept alive by said summoner just like binders men. They're enabled. *we know piercing the veil gives direct negative effects to said spirits, why wouldn't it contaminate those whom they are literally connected to?
Slight tangent, I think this goes also into the positive/negative aspect of the spiritual plain. With things like the fae possessing enough pull here to mantle a host without disagreeing with said law or simply to cross over of their own will. Something not everything can do.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: jonas on May 11, 2018, 02:56:32 PM ---Sir Stuart explained it I think. Ghosts and other spirits are not supposed to pierce the veil to manifest or otherwise directly effect mortals... I think part of that is that mortal choice/fate thing. But a necromancer is empowering things that go directly against that on both accounts, bringing it back through and giving it a direct tie to his own mortal magic, the ability to effect fate. Remember it's always kept alive by said summoner just like binders men. They're enabled. *we know piercing the veil gives direct negative effects to said spirits, why wouldn't it contaminate those whom they are literally connected to?
Slight tangent, I think this goes also into the positive/negative aspect of the spiritual plain. With things like the fae possessing enough pull here to mantle a host without disagreeing with said law or simply to cross over of their own will. Something not everything can do.
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This was always something of a point of debate on that: whether there was any qualitative difference in the Energies behind the Ectomancy that Mort does and actual Necromancy. In one theory they are using qualitatively different energies, one of which is safe (as much as normal Life magic use anyway) while the other is innately twisting. In the other theory, which the concept of a White Necromancy supports, is the idea that the underlying energy is the same and is not innately Black, but that only certain uses of it is.
Among other things this tells me that Kumori is not nearly as Naive as Id been assuming.
Fcrate:
Mort used Harry's spirit against his will in GS, how is that different? I'm leaning towards the "Intent" theory.
raidem:
--- Quote ---Among other things this tells me that Kumori is not nearly as Naive as Id been assuming.
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Same for Cowl for that matter. He used the others necromancy fields to get close to ground zero of the Darkhallow. He may have done it that way to limit the taint of black magic that comes with necromancy.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Fcrate on May 11, 2018, 06:06:29 PM ---Mort used Harry's spirit against his will in GS, how is that different? I'm leaning towards the "Intent" theory.
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If its the scene Im thinking of, I dont think he did (at least not in the strict subconscious Free Will sense). He was "instinctively" moving to save Mort and tripped.
--- Quote from: GS ch. 6 ---I moved on instinct, throwing myself uselessly between the weapon and the ectomancer. I tripped on a fragment of the ghost-dust-painted door and wound up falling in a heap on top of Mort and . . . . . . sunk into him.
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