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Are there Shadows in DF, an Amber Question.
raidem:
In Amber, there is an understanding that there is a Prime Reality (Amber) and that other worlds are shades cast from this reality. This Amber, a place of order, and the Place of Chaos are two ends of a line segment with these shadow worlds between them. My interest in this thread deals mainly though with the characters walking within these shadow worlds. In Amber, the Prime residents can walk these shadow worlds, but in doing so they can leave traces of their shadow selves there. This is a bit different than say Mirror Mirror alternates, as in Amber there is a Prime Individual that has an ability that the other shadowselves don't. They can walk the Pattern and survive it while their shadowselves can't.
So, for Dresden Files I'm asking are there shadowselves of say Harry that is distinct from alternate Harry's. Are there Mirror Mirrors in the Dresdenverse that are closer to Prime Reality than the Others. Could Malcolm Dresden be a shadowself of some other being that has a Prime existence and is still living. Or in a generic question, are there other beings that exist in which case we see a shadowself, but not the Prime self. And again, this would be separate from alternate realities in which supposedly the entities would be equal as far as 'Primeness" goes.
In Ghost Story, we do see a hint that there exists a more Prime Reality with Uriel's office existing on a different plane that mortal Earth. And, we see in Summer Knight that Mab and Titania can pull out a different 'reality' in OverChicago so that they can war against each other and settle differences there.
groinkick:
It wouldn't surprise me. Jim is also a comic book buff and they have something similar.. I think the first reality is called Earth Prime.
Griffyn612:
My theorized interpretation of the Dresdenverse does not match this theorized interpretation.
I think there are plenty of different versions of individuals (the living person, their ascended/descended soul, their ghost, their mirrored existences) but not any that are more or less than each other. No "Prime" version of individuals, even if there's a "Prime"/Planned Path of Events timeline that was the source of the first splinter. That reality, in my interpretation, would be equal to all others. TWG's Template/"Prime" universe might still be plodding along, but it'd have formed more and more splinters from itself as reality continued, even as splinters were created from other splinters.
The closest I could imagine to what you describe is a ghost of a terminated reality. If an entire splinterverse were destroyed in a fashion that the souls of the living ascended/descended, but the planets and spirits and ghosts remained. It'd be an entire splinterverse like Agatha Hagglethorn's ghostly Chicago from Grave Peril laid over the actual landscape of reality.
I could then imagine a scenario where someone could learn to travel between realities, and visit that place. But I don't see where they'd leave a shadow-self in their wake.
But that type of reality being allowed to continue to exist as-is, with the threat of the Outsiders not addressed by anyone or anything, seems unlikely.
peregrine:
No. Nothing whatsoever we've seen in the books suggests that any of the variant realms we see are a Shadow or Prime version instead of simply yet another alternate.
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: peregrine on May 04, 2018, 06:46:21 PM ---No. Nothing whatsoever we've seen in the books suggests that any of the variant realms we see are a Shadow or Prime version instead of simply yet another alternate.
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And the description of Mirror Mirror being that branching is caused by choices suggests the branches are equivalent.
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