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Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: jonas on May 13, 2018, 06:58:04 PM ---Except you'd be hard pressed to find Odin associated with the weather in any mythology.
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Where is this quote coming from?
One of Odin's many names is Þundr, which means Thunderer. Another is Viðrir, which means Stormer. Another is Hveðrungr, which means "Roarer" or "Weather-Maker". He also has at least seven names that incorporate "Father" into the name, at least one of which refers to one of his sons (Baldrsfaðr, Baldr's father).
--- Quote from: exartiem on May 13, 2018, 03:38:28 PM ---Harry does refer to Vadderung as "Thunder's Father". Could Vadderung actually BE Thor? After Ragnarok, the ending of their world, they reestablished here as mortals?
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Thor and Donar translate as "thunder". So the father of "thunder" would be Odin.
jonas:
Yes he has many names https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_names_of_Odin But no weather associations directly. And he's the 'Stormer' in the edda's when arguing with Loki, and of course his other names support this boisterous nature such as Hjarrandi= Screamer Or Göllnir =Yeller Óðins nöfn (3)
Gollorr=Yeller Óðins nöfn (1)
Göllungr=Yeller Óðins nöfn (5)
Seems his motif is raging at people, not calling down the lightning.
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: jonas on May 13, 2018, 09:00:32 PM ---Yes he has many names https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_names_of_Odin But no weather associations directly. And he's the 'Stormer' in the edda's when arguing with Loki, and of course his other names support this boisterous nature such as Hjarrandi= Screamer Or Göllnir =Yeller Óðins nöfn (3)
Gollorr=Yeller Óðins nöfn (1)
Göllungr=Yeller Óðins nöfn (5)
Seems his motif is raging at people, not calling down the lightning.
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I don't think it was just for raging at people, because it appears to mostly be used in description of battle cries.
Here's an article written by a Cal State grad student, that seems well versed in Viking history, about how Odin was associated with the weather.
Now maybe she's wrong. But she seems like more of an authority than most internet sites, which regurgitate things on other sites.
As for DV being Thor after Odin died in Ragnarok, let's not forget that Thor was also supposed to die in Ragnarok.
jonas:
I'm too tired of my internet Fu&*()g up to rewrite this crap a third time. But suffice it to say if the Edda's say they both died then nothing in them can be applied to figuring out our current Odins ID. also The Norse also prayed and sacrificed to the god Njord for safe seafaring and to Odin for general weather[/quote]I'd say it implies more of a sun god position. and I'd rather trust the sourced material still than an article written this last year by a student.
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: jonas on May 13, 2018, 11:40:39 PM ---I'm too tired of my internet Fu&*()g up to rewrite this crap a third time. But suffice it to say if the Edda's say they both died then nothing in them can be applied to figuring out our current Odins ID. also The Norse also prayed and sacrificed to the god Njord for safe seafaring and to Odin for general weatherI'd say it implies more of a sun god position. and I'd rather trust the sourced material still than an article written this last year by a student.
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You're assuming that Ragnarok already occurred, but WoJ is that Loki is still locked up. Ergo, he's still alive, rather than being dead like he's supposed to be after Ragnarok. Everything points to Ragnarok not having occurred yet.
Again, what sources material? I haven't found many translated texts.
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