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Could Jim use current movies to influence books?
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Lost Merlin on April 30, 2018, 02:43:41 PM ---Do we know that worship/knowledge is tied to power level in the DV? I know in the Iron Druid Cornicles that it is implicitly stated several times. But in the DV all that I recall is that if you are forgotten from the minds you cease to exist.
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Kinda? As far as I know we've never had any direct confirmation of a Power Increase, but we do know that NeverNever Entities require a tether to mortal consciousness, such that if they are forgotten completely they cannot interact with reality any more and are said to be "consigned to Oblivion" (though there is debate what all that means). That being said in Day One it was confirmed that enough Belief can create new beings, though it also says that more often an existing being will alter itself to fit the new myth/shape and piggy-back it.
My read of it, particularly the couple times Bob has touched on it, is that the Belief affects the Connection to the Mortal Word, which in turn limits how much of their Power they can Leverage. It wont in itself Create Power from nothing, though it could gather up old/lost power that resonates enough which would more or less look like the same thing (Conservation of Energy notwithstanding). More often it would attract a Powerful Being to what is essentially an unused and unclaimed Tether.
groinkick:
--- Quote from: Lost Merlin on April 30, 2018, 02:43:41 PM ---Do we know that worship/knowledge is tied to power level in the DV? I know in the Iron Druid Cornicles that it is implicitly stated several times. But in the DV all that I recall is that if you are forgotten from the minds you cease to exist.
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Well if the Greek gods are getting powered because they have taken on rolls a professional wrestlers, I would suspect my theory to work... Unless the power is directed towards the actor's themselves, and because they are vanilla mortals get nothing from it. On the other hand apparently even knowing the names of Old Gods, gives them an anchor here (the Oblivion war is trying to eliminate their Names)... So I'd think that the knowledge of Zeus or Thor combined with people being fans of the idea of them would grant power.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: groinkick on April 30, 2018, 07:10:12 PM ---Well if the Greek gods are getting powered because they have taken on rolls a professional wrestlers, I would suspect my theory to work... Unless the power is directed towards the actor's themselves, and because they are vanilla mortals get nothing from it. On the other hand apparently even knowing the names of Old Gods, gives them an anchor here (the Oblivion war is trying to eliminate their Names)... So I'd think that the knowledge of Zeus or Thor combined with people being fans of the idea of them would grant power.
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Part of the issue, or at least an aspect of the mechanic, would have to be how Unified the (new) image of the entity actually is. In the case of Thor, there is the Comic version, the Movie Version (which it's most rabid zealots will insists is different), as well as all the various non-Marvel versions (DC Comics, Percy Jackson, Iron Druid, American Gods, etc etc etc). I think for the popular Thor Image to take over it would need a generation or two for it to settle out to a single unified image; again looking at Santa as the example.
Kindler:
--- Quote from: Quantus on April 30, 2018, 08:18:41 PM ---again looking at Santa as the example.
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Interesting side note: Kringle might be the only Fae able to actually give gifts without getting something in exchange.
raidem:
That or he values the reaction of the recipient of the gift as in part valuable as the gift, or what will potentially occur as a result of the gift being given as also valuable in part.
Kringle gives Harry gifts and tells Harry to consider it payment for Demonreach, etc...
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