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Cowl is Justin reboot
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: raidem on April 30, 2018, 02:28:38 PM ---There was no guarantee for it. He already had those wizards as allies.
Anyways, if we are thinking about someone being able to compromise Archangel's defenses, I think we should now extend that list to Nemesis. Nemesis is possibly able to bypass Gatekeepers wards at Outergates, I'm sure it can handle Simon's wards too. Peabody also got Mistfiend into Edinburgh, so that is another example of someone bypassing the security wards. Also, Peabody could have uses his influences on some of the younger wardens stationed at Archangel to open up a whole in its defense allowing Reds entry. These don't require Justin nor Simon complicity.
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Those are all also valid possibilities, some of them quite credible.
But the brute squad were only Simon's allies so long as they thought he was a proper Senior Council leader. If he wanted to chase the Darkhallow, I can't see any but a handful of personal loyalists actually backing him in it. And if he started being absent at the wrong times because of doing Cowl things, one of them might have figured it out.
forumghost:
--- Quote from: raidem on May 01, 2018, 01:03:32 AM ---I think that is making Justin into too big of a player. It is giving him too much credit.
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While I agree with you, keep in mind that Justin was part of Maggie/Raith's Legion of Doom at one point.
peregrine:
Where are you getting that from? He knew Maggie, sure, but Raith?
groinkick:
--- Quote from: peregrine on May 01, 2018, 02:57:51 AM ---Where are you getting that from? He knew Maggie, sure, but Raith?
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Justin trained under an expert on the Red Court, was a warden, ran around with Maggie.... He had to know of Raith, and because Justin wasn't a good guy he probably would have reached out to people like Raith. Justin summoned He Who Walks Behind to go after Harry, and Lord Raith summoned He Who Walks Behind in the tunnels....
Kindler:
--- Quote from: groinkick on May 01, 2018, 05:29:03 AM ---Justin trained under an expert on the Red Court, was a warden, ran around with Maggie.... He had to know of Raith, and because Justin wasn't a good guy he probably would have reached out to people like Raith. Justin summoned He Who Walks Behind to go after Harry, and Lord Raith summoned He Who Walks Behind in the tunnels....
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I'm going to just write some things here, because I've got some thoughts and questions, so forgive me if this appears to ramble.
Are we sure it was Justin who sent him? I don't have the text at hand right now, and I can't recall if it's explicitly stated that Justin summoned HWWB at all. I tend to think it was him, because testing Harry's Starborn-ness would fall in line with what Justin's intentions appear to have been. But why would Justin go through all the trouble to find a Starborn only to test his ability to fight Outsiders with one of the KNIGHTS? He Who Walks Behind and He Who Walks Before are stupidly strong; wouldn't it make more sense to test Harry against a (relative) baby Outsider, just to see if his magic would stick to it? And if there was a deal made with HWWB, what the hell did it get in exchange for not immediately dicing Harry into bite-sized bits?
Personally, I'd think that there are a few options: either A) HWWB just really liked to play with his food, and he really was trying to kill Harry, either at someone's behest, or the opportunity to kill Harry, a Starborn, was payment as part of a deal, B) there's a lot more to this Starborn thing than we know. I don't think it would be in the Outsiders' best interest to keep alive someone whose magic actually worked on them. To me, that means that Starborn have something to offer the Outsiders, something significant, something that makes it worth the risk of keeping a strong enemy alive. Maybe Starborn are the only ones who can open the Gates from this side?
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