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Foxed:
I 💯 agree that Cowl is Justin. I was there biggest proponent of Cowl being Christos for a bit, but after a close "from first principles" reading of Dead Beat*, it's obvious-- from the focus on flashing back to Justin training Harry, to Cowl's knowledge of Bob, to Cowl's skills as a necromancer answering how Justin is still alive, that Cowl IS Justin. If it was a fakeout, it would have gotten more attention from the text by now.

* The same kind of reading that led me to conclude from Proven Guilty that:

- Titania was grooming Molly for Summer Lady. Maeve hijacked that with Sandra Marling and a very bad idea.

- Harry has mentally time traveled back to the events of this book. Teaming up with Lash, he fakes the car accident and fixes Little Chicago.

Talby16:

--- Quote from: Foxed on April 23, 2018, 10:18:50 PM ---I 💯 agree that Cowl is Justin. I was there biggest proponent of Cowl being Christos for a bit, but after a close "from first principles" reading of Dead Beat*, it's obvious-- from the focus on flashing back to Justin training Harry, to Cowl's knowledge of Bob, to Cowl's skills as a necromancer answering how Justin is still alive, that Cowl IS Justin. If it was a fakeout, it would have gotten more attention from the text by now.

* The same kind of reading that led me to conclude from Proven Guilty that:

- Titania was grooming Molly for Summer Lady. Maeve hijacked that with Sandra Marling and a very bad idea.

- Harry has mentally time traveled back to the events of this book. Teaming up with Lash, he fakes the car accident and fixes Little Chicago.

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I'm onboard with Harry TT in proven guilty to do the car crash and fix Little Chicago. I've also thought that there was something fishy about Sandra Marling. However, you lost me with Titania grooming Molly and Maeve's involvement with Sandra. Would you be willing to expound on that or direct me to where you have previously detailed that theory?

raidem:

--- Quote ---Teaming up with Lash, he fakes the car accident and fixes Little Chicago.
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This is where I strongly disagree with you. The scene of the accident is described as Harry having been hit in the back of the car.  So if there was actual damage to the back of the car, that isn't a fake accident. 


--- Quote ---Harry has mentally time traveled back to the events of this book.
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I've been a long proponent that Harry will time travel back via Sub Harry and particular places in which part of "no matter where you go, there you are" occur, particularly the 'there your are' bit.  There are no "there you are" in Proven Guilty but there does seem much likelihood that Harry will revisit Proven Guilty, but I don't think it will be mental time travel.  I think it will be the big deal.  I equate mental time travel to Sub Harry, though in retrospect Lash does say it is easier for her to talk to him than Harry.

Fcrate:

--- Quote from: Foxed on April 23, 2018, 10:18:50 PM ---I 💯 agree that Cowl is Justin. I was there biggest proponent of Cowl being Christos for a bit, but after a close "from first principles" reading of Dead Beat*, it's obvious-- from the focus on flashing back to Justin training Harry, to Cowl's knowledge of Bob, to Cowl's skills as a necromancer answering how Justin is still alive, that Cowl IS Justin. If it was a fakeout, it would have gotten more attention from the text by now.

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Cowl's knowledge of Bob. Excellent point. Now that I think about it, there is something extremely fishy about Cowl knowing that Harry has the very same Spirit of Intellect that Kemmler used.

Kindler:

--- Quote from: Fcrate on April 24, 2018, 06:37:18 PM ---Cowl's knowledge of Bob. Excellent point. Now that I think about it, there is something extremely fishy about Cowl knowing that Harry has the very same Spirit of Intellect that Kemmler used.

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Doubly so, since this information couldn't have come from the Council; Luccio believes Bob was destroyed or was lost after Kemmler died. So either Cowl knows that Harry had him since Justin died, or he deduced it because he knew that Justin grabbed him.

If it's the former, then we don't really have a lot to go on, because he could be any one of a hundred people who could have found out in the (twenty? thirty?) years since Harry took him.

If it's the latter, then it seems likely that Cowl is either A) Justin, B) a former apprentice of his, C) a Warden who saw Justin take Bob, or D) an old friend of Justin's who he trusted enough to let him see Bob.

Or... hmm. Interesting. What if Cowl met Evil Bob shortly after Bob cut him off? He is a necromancer...

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