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Is Mac God?
jonas:
--- Quote from: Kindler on April 16, 2018, 01:30:45 PM ---I can buy Jim being inspired by the Amber Chronicles, or using some ideas based on them, but there is zero chance that the Dresden Files is literally connected to another series altogether, for the same reasons that the Hulk won't actually show up, even if he has Hercules's mantle.
Dresden, the Cinder Spires, and Alera—the three series Jim actually has intellectual property rights for—maybe, but definitely not something that he doesn't own. Speculation in that direction is a dead end.
You can draw as many parallels as you like, and that's perfectly valid, but Corwin is not going to show up in the Dresden Files any more than Cyclops.
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exactamundo.
raidem:
--- Quote ---You can draw as many parallels as you like, and that's perfectly valid, but Corwin is not going to show up in the Dresden Files any more than Cyclops.
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Corwin, Nevada already shows up in the Dresden Files after Harry, Susan go through the Ways to reach the Reds wharehouse in Changes and find themselves at a ghost town. Jim has admitted he borrowed travel through the Ways from Amber, so we already have "Corwin" showing up in Dresden Files, but as a place instead of a person. This "Corwin" is also a place Maggie Sr. visited.
As to other sources, the Fetches impersonate wellknown scary movie characters, we have references to Star Wars and Star Trek, we are going to have a Book titled after a Star Trek episode "Mirror Mirror". I wouldn't be to sure that we won't have "Corwin" show up without him necessarily being named as such.
Now, as far as Luke=Lucifer goes, or Merlin son of Corwin, son of 'God', it was just an longshot idea. I do like the idea though that Jim is using some templates from Amber in his DF creations, though these templates may be better attributed to AmberMush rather than the Amber Chronicles as AmberMush has content that isn't strictly copyrighted but that is player creations.
--- Quote ---“The hallway on the other side is full of dangerous levels of methane and carbon monoxide, among other gases. The mixture appears to be volatile, and in the other side you can never be sure exactly which energies might or might not trigger an explosion. Forty-two walking steps to the far end, which opens on a ridge outside Corwin, Nevada.” There was a moment of silence, and then the same voice began to speak again, panting, shaking, and out of breath. “Notation: The hallway is not entirely abandoned. Something tried to grab me as I came through.” She coughed several times. “Notation secundus: Don’t wear a dress the next time you need to go to Corwin, dummy. Some farmer’s going to get a show.”
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Kindler:
Things like that are homages, references, or in-jokes, and a reference to a town called "Corwin" is not a connection any more than dropping a line from "They Live" in the movie theater in Proven Guilty was. It's more than a long shot. It's a legal problem that Jim cannot (and wouldn't want to) overcome.
Like I said, you can draw tons of parallels between Amber and the Dresden Files—you might even be able to use those parallels to predict future events—but there isn't a crossover. There legally can't be.
Maybe something like what you're suggesting happened, and God in the Dresden Files is just the guy who made this universe. But he won't be Corwin, or any character from the Amber Chronicles, the Marvel or DC Universes, or Star Trek. He or she (let's face it, with the DF and Harry's luck, God's probably a female, if she has a gender at all) will be an original creation made by Jim for the Dresden Files.
Assuming Jim can and has the desire to overcome the intellectual property issues surrounding this, if you're right, it wouldn't make sense. Even importing a character Jim created himself in AmberMUSH wouldn't fit with the Dresden Files's existing canon. It would be foolish to even try to do so, because it would require far, far more effort to justify than to make something new, and offers absolutely nothing of value to the vast majority of his readers, who have no idea what AmberMUSH is. Cameos are supposed to make a significant cross-section of your fanbase squeal in delight, like if Jayne Cobb showed up in Dollhouse. And honestly, making a character from another series altogether God would just confuse or infuriate the vast, overwhelming, near-total majority of people reading the book. Are we to be expected to read an entirely different book series by a different author with a different publisher in order to understand the backstory for a critically important character?
Please don't take this as a personal attack; it's not. I just think that theorizing like this isn't worth it.
On the other hand, I invite you to write fanfiction about this to your heart's content; I'll read it.
raidem:
--- Quote ---I just think that theorizing like this isn't worth it.
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I disagree and enjoy it.
The Corwin/God thought is only one unlikely but possible comparison of Amber/Dresden Files. There are many more plausible scenarios in which a Corwin/nonGod persona sets up as a Barkeep in Chicago. This isn't Mac as God, but something like a Corwin character.
groinkick:
I just think that theorizing like this isn't worth it.
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If we stopped theorizing what will be left of the forum? Nothing left to talk about.
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