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WereElephant:
As of Skin Game, we know that Butters has accepted wielding Fidelacchius full-time. Murphy has picked it up off and on in the past, with varying results. Based on previous theory, to bear the sword on a regular basis, there is a requirement to have royal ancestry.

Did the books say from which royal Butters is descended? I can't remember. If not, what are the popular theories? He's Jewish, so it could go back to the kings of Israel and Judah, possibly even David.

What about Murphy? She never became a full Knight of the Cross, but she wielded it several times, and at one point, the sword was described as giving her a "job offer". Any theories on from whom she might be descended? Did they say in the books?

Other possible candidates for holding swords (based solely on lineage, not on temperament or character):

Thomas Raith. Descended from Lord Raith, ruler of the White Court for centuries. Royalty of a sort. Also, him taking up the Sword of Love would be interesting.

Marcone. His lineage remains completely unknown, but his position as an underworld lord and freeholding lord might count, making him the first of his line.

Daniel Carpenter. Same lineage as his father, duh. Seems a little on the nose, and I would rather see a sword go elsewhere, but it's a possibility.

Thoughts?

Maz:
By the nature of genealogy, everyone on the planet, if you go back far enough, is descended from royalty.  Its just a product of the limited population of the planet and  the number of ancestors you have had :)

Kindler:

--- Quote from: WereElephant on March 29, 2018, 03:49:15 PM ---Daniel Carpenter. Same lineage as his father, duh. Seems a little on the nose, and I would rather see a sword go elsewhere, but it's a possibility.

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*cough* AmandaCarpenter *coughcough*.

Daniel, in my opinion, has disqualified himself from being a wielder. He completely lacks the one quality we've seen from Shiro, Sanya, and Michael (and Butters, for that matter): being slow to anger. Daniel's got the fury part, but he's missing the "righteous" side.

Murphy's Irish. Only Irish dynasty I know anything about is the last one, the Ua Briain dynasty, which was overthrown around 1120 AD by (you guessed it) the Anglo (at this point)-Normans. Not sure if her ancestry includes England or not, but that would open up an awful lot of possibilities.

I'm assuming that Butters is ethnically Jewish (as in a lineage traceable to Israel, circa 1100 BC) and not Ashkenazi or a converted family line. Could be from the Davidic line, which hung around for about a thousand years, with a lot of offshoots.

By the way, I also assume the Lord Raith is descended from one of the Etruscan Kings of Rome (before they became a republic and annexed most of the other city-states in what they called Etruria). It'd certainly make sense if they're speaking flippin' Etruscan in their meetings.

I agree; Marcone is the Nobleman of Chicago.

For the rest... we simply don't know enough about their lineage. I do know that the House of Borden (Billy) was created as a Greater Barony by William the Conqueror for services rendered (there's that pesky Norman again). With the ties to Hastings, and also being half of the only two genuinely stable couples in the books, that might make him a viable candidate.

Rasins:
There were a LOT of Kings in Ireland, and elsewhere, so It's entirely possible that Murphy is descended from one or many of them.

Quantus:

--- Quote from: Rasins on March 29, 2018, 04:47:32 PM ---There were a LOT of Kings in Ireland, and elsewhere, so It's entirely possible that Murphy is descended from one or many of them.

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Agreed.  And the further you go back the smaller a group had to be to call their leader a King (or equivalent). A Chieftain would have the same sort of Responsibility for his People.   

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