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What's Up With Marcone?

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peregrine:

--- Quote from: raidem on March 26, 2018, 06:31:13 PM ---One of Marcone's mission is to save Chicago/world from Harry.  If you ever need someone to put Harry down because he goes bad, I think Marcone would be a good guy to make it so.  I'm reminded sometimes of Marcone telling Harry that he have Harry killed, I'd even do it myself... Thinking upon the temporal effects if Marcone killed his father prior to 'him' being born, that would be saying something.

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Absolutely not.  When Marcone was talking about killing Harry, it's because Harry was a threat to Marcone, not to Chicago.  Marcone does head up a criminal empire, remember.

Snark Knight:

--- Quote from: peregrine on March 26, 2018, 07:17:12 PM ---Absolutely not.  When Marcone was talking about killing Harry, it's because Harry was a threat to Marcone, not to Chicago.  Marcone does head up a criminal empire, remember.

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I mean, if Harry went dark in a way that offended Marcone's rules (no kids, no excessive public order disruptions) he'd probably order the hit. Maybe that's why MM Marcone is "interesting".

Mr. Death:

--- Quote from: WereElephant on March 26, 2018, 02:01:53 PM ---Has it been confirmed that Marcone is a Starborn? It would seem a little too obvious, and possibly redundant, but his signature seems to match the profile. If he's not a Starborn, is he really just a remarkable vanilla Mortal? Or is he something else?

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Not only not confirmed, but not even hinted at.

Marcone is smart and savvy, and that's all he really needs -- Harry remarks constantly about how most people are willfully ignorant, and Anna Valmont in Skin Game says that if you're actually looking for it, supernatural stuff is easy to find all over the place, as are supernatural connections.

He doesn't have to be a starborn or Mab's son or anything like that to have the drive and will to recognize the world for what it is and take steps accordingly. Hell, that's how he's introduced -- one of his men is killed by magic, so he tries to hire Harry. When that doesn't work, he shops around until he finds someone he can work with.

It's really not that different from how you'd operate an entirely mundane operation. And note that it's Odin of all people who he ends up with -- Odin valued cleverness and sheer chutzpa. A pure mortal who gets punched in the nose by the supernatural and then turns around and goes, "Come at me, bro," is definitely going to get his attention.

Remember, knowledge is power. You don't have to be supernaturally empowered, a Starborn, the son of a fae or anything like that to be dangerous. You just need to know the right things and have the will to act.

raidem:
Well. We do know his parentage is hidden from us.  His real name is unknown.  His age is unknown.  His timeline is sketchy with regard to when he was in the Marines when he took over the criminal underworld etc. (I created a thread going into his timeline and there seems to be inconsistencies with regard to it.)  We do have Nic making some suggestion that Marcone would be a good fit as a Baron (or something) a few hundred years ago.

We have seen Jim using a description of Marcone shooting a gun and thinking he could follow the bullet; Jim uses a similar description with Murphy and her shooting a gun and following a bullet.

We haven't seen Marcone outright use supernatural abilities, but it doesn't preclude him from having some.  It may be that he just hasn't yet been forced to use them.  We have seen has some mad skills in martial abilities, soldier skills likely acquired in the Marines per WOJ on Twitter.

I think when you have connections to Mab, Odin, Hades, Ferrovax, etc, I think that pretty much lends itself to being circumstantial evidence that Marcone isn't exactly vanilla mortal.  I mean he even has Hendricks who I think wields a sword/weapon in a short story associated with a line descended from Norse mythology.  It's more evidence to suggests that Marcone has another link via Hendricks to Norse pantheon.

Rasins:
I would be disappointed if Marcone turns out to be a supernatural.  He's a badass because of his organization.  He's learned about the supernatural and is using it to his advantage.  His knowledge and tutoring by Gard and probably others on the supernatural situation is based on his power, based in his criminal enterprises.

Now, I have no doubt that he'll try to figure out how to extend his life, but that's something anyone with that kind of power/money would do.  He just has a leg up due to his knowledge of the supernatural.

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