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What's Up With Marcone?
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--- Quote from: Rasins on April 02, 2018, 07:18:36 PM ---That and the fact that Bony Tony got hold of (at least in part) a Supernatural Being's treasure hoard. That would have clued Marcone in too.
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True but that was /years/ later, long after he'd been clued in and had Monoc on his payroll for a while.
Nah, I think it's simpler than that. Mama Murphy was clued in purely by proximity to the CPD Black Cats. Marcone would simply NOT allow a police division that produces so much obvious Fiction to go investigated. At minimum such an outfit would be prime blackmail material; but surprise surprise when he discovered that Vampires are actually real and his current criminal Rivals. I think it very likely that long before Marcone started taking the Yellow Pages Wizard seriously, his organization had some run-in's with rival Muscle that was inexplicably durable and/or fanged, and he wanted to know why.
OR..It was all Vadderung. We dont actually know when Marcone and Monoc connected, only that he didnt yet have Gard back in SF. But I could easily see the All-Father taking the pulling strings to build up the Good King Johnny into something useful, and given his general MO he could have been doing it as far back as Persephone or earlier
Rasins:
Dead Beat occurs 5 years after Storm Front. We should assume that Marcone didn't become aware of the Supernatural world much before Storm Front.
IIRC, in Dead Beat, Marcone said that Bony Tony had acquired the locker that had contained the Word of Kemmler sometime before Dead Beat. Further, Marcone had given Tony permission to liquidate the contents, after Marcone got the pick of the lot. The impression I got was that this transaction between Tony and Marcone was some time before DB. It could even have been years before hand.
I think Marcone learned about the truth of the Supernatural not long before SF, due to Victor Sells activities, but confirmed it with Harry and the Soulgaze. After that, Tony's revelation to Marcone just let him know that the scope of the supernatural was much larger than he previously knew. That is why he finally sought out the services of Monoc.
peregrine:
--- Quote from: Rasins on April 02, 2018, 07:18:36 PM ---That and the fact that Bony Tony got hold of (at least in part) a Supernatural Being's treasure hoard. That would have clued Marcone in too.
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Well, it has a magical book. But so does Artemis Bock, the guy who has a book that includes a spell for summoning the Erlking. Doesn't make him a supernatural being.
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--- Quote from: Rasins on April 03, 2018, 04:36:57 PM ---Dead Beat occurs 5 years after Storm Front. We should assume that Marcone didn't become aware of the Supernatural world much before Storm Front.
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For the sake of argument (the Bony Tony connection) or do you have any specific that limits him to recent (as of SF) introduction? He knew enough detail about the supernatural world to have learned of Soul Gazes, which Id think could conceivably take a lot longer than that (especially pre-Paranet)
--- Quote from: peregrine on April 03, 2018, 04:56:00 PM ---Well, it has a magical book. But so does Artemis Bock, the guy who has a book that includes a spell for summoning the Erlking. Doesn't make him a supernatural being.
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Eh, Bock had stocked a copy of a Published if rare book written by a prominent and living member of the White Council, it was only interesting because it turned out the Kemmlerites needed it for the Erlking. Bony Tony found one of Kemmler's original manuscripts, specifically the one of the four that Kemmler had not widely shared, and which had been on the Council's Burn List since WWII.
Mr. Death:
We don't know that Tony was looking for the Word of Kemmler. We just know it was part of an estate of someone reasonably wealthy.
It could've been the estate of someone very much on the supernatural side. Or it could've been the estate of someone's wealthy-but-loony aunt who had a taste for the occult.
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