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What's Up With Marcone?
forumghost:
--- Quote from: Mr. Death on March 27, 2018, 05:52:12 PM ---Marcone being supernatural downgrades him from a badass who's able to stand toe-to-toe with things that could obliterate him out of sheer savvy and chutzpah to, "Oh, another one."
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Indeed. Also, remember Murphy? As soon as she tried to upgrade to a Supernatural Level she lost her Badass Normal status and got taken down- Hard.
Marcone is Genre Savvy enough to know that as long as he refuses any power boosts, he'll have Badass Normal levels of Plot Armour to allow him to keep up with all the Gods/Demons/Angels that he's running around with.
peregrine:
--- Quote from: jonas on March 27, 2018, 11:31:21 PM ---Cause we'd know what to look for would we?(or Harry the perspective gazer)
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No, but if it's so important, you'd think it would make some kind of difference worth noting.
--- Quote ---Funny thing is besides the naming, what do you THINK a starborn can do that would ruin his 'vanillaniss"?
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Literally anything at all. If being Starborn doesn't ruin his vanillaness, then there's no point in him being one.
Plus, there's the whole "they're rare" thing going on, on the scale of one per several centuries as far as we know.
jonas:
--- Quote from: peregrine on March 28, 2018, 12:14:40 AM ---No, but if it's so important, you'd think it would make some kind of difference worth noting.Literally anything at all. If being Starborn doesn't ruin his vanillaness, then there's no point in him being one.
Plus, there's the whole "they're rare" thing going on, on the scale of one per several centuries as far as we know.
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No, actually per woj there's millions of them, most simply lack any disconcernable power to leverage as Harry does. The most unique thing about them is they are ordinary it seems. Being so ordinary I think most really never encounter heavy supernatural events/personages. Marcone dispite being ordinary, does. Look at the private relations he's had with both Odin and now Mab, he has influence, strike that. He IS influence.
Mr. Death:
What WOJ are you referring to?
raidem:
I think he is equating Starborn with free will and power to influence events. I think leveraging events, being a fulcrum at pivotal events is one characteristic of a Starborn. And with that one characteristic, you could say there are many Starborn; however, I believe there are many other characteristics that go into Starborn besides influencing events.
--- Quote ---Cause we'd know what to look for would we?(or Harry the perspective gazer)
Funny thing is besides the naming, what do you THINK a starborn can do that would ruin his 'vanillaniss"?
Cause honestly... between Harry's confrontation with Hwwb4 and the one with MW i'm thinking Starborn simply means a 'prime' personality amongst the stars. So if we think about reality as nothing more than 'Gods' mind and Outsiders as the invading consciousness we get a pretty good mock up for how the War actually is. I mean it's not like Earth has a literal dark Planet Named Nemesis that is supposed to come around and cause apocalyptic scale destruction or anything...(yes, we do!)
TWG/C is our Aeon
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Hah. I like how you think God's mind, it being like reality, and Outsiders invading it. I argued in a long past age that it was something like you said. Or did I argue what we were reading in a sense was Harry's mind being invaded by Outsiders.
Anyways, I forget all the particulars but had "Hokey Pokey" being part of a magical dance linked to God, or at least w Harry dancing it against Outsiders is able to defeat them. It is similar to how he defeated HWWB when he was young using cultural reference to peewee herman's dance to not allow HWWB to be exactly behind him. Then in Cold Days, Molly, Harry and Gang were able to use "We will, We will rock you." against HWWBefore.
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