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Projections: Time Travel Moving Forward
Kindler:
Oh, it was great. Nice, family-friendly content with fun science-fictiony elements. SyFy's made some good stuff in the last decade. Pity they're not doing more of this stuff now. Alphas, Warehouse 13, and Eureka was a great trifecta.
By the way, to clarify my previous post, I wasn't assuming that anyone thought that the Dresden Files has insurmountable plot issues; if anyone thinks that present-altering time travel is cool, I'm not knocking it. I'm just not sure it can work, or is even necessary.
Lost Merlin:
--- Quote from: Kindler on April 05, 2018, 01:27:07 PM ---By the way, to clarify my previous post, I wasn't assuming that anyone thought that the Dresden Files has insurmountable plot issues; if anyone thinks that present-altering time travel is cool, I'm not knocking it. I'm just not sure it can work, or is even necessary.
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I think that present-altering time travel can have its places and can drive different parts of a plot. (see current show Timeless) I just sometimes feel that if you make the present-changes too big it can seem like a cop out or getting the writer out of a corner they got stuck in. It is much harder to use in a positive way. It reminds me of the scene from Misery where Kathy Bates is complaining about the chapter shorts (He didn't get out of the COCKADOODIE CAR!)
Kindler:
--- Quote from: Lost Merlin on April 05, 2018, 01:45:48 PM ---I think that present-altering time travel can have its places and can drive different parts of a plot. (see current show Timeless) I just sometimes feel that if you make the present-changes too big it can seem like a cop out or getting the writer out of a corner they got stuck in. It is much harder to use in a positive way. It reminds me of the scene from Misery where Kathy Bates is complaining about the chapter shorts (He didn't get out of the COCKADOODIE CAR!)
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That's my biggest complaint about time travel in general. It's too easy to solve narrative issues with "He went back in time, put a pencil on top of a doorknob, and now his wife is alive in the present."
raidem:
My arguments have been that there has already been time traveling shenanigans that have taken place and we are largely reading the resultant effects. So, Murphy has already gone back in time to ascend to Mab. ETC. ETC. We just need to get to the place in the books where we actually see the send off occur. Now, if you don't like that particular specific the template still stands. The time travel into the past has already occurred by many entities from very powerful to minor mortals. This way the series is preserved as read but there can still be minor fluctuations while we read the series due to free will, choices made, etc. We have to keep in mind that there is the possibility of these other Mirror realities like that which will occur in Mirror Mirror. These may have every right to exist like our own series, but I think our series read has 'Reader Preference.'
Lost Merlin:
--- Quote from: raidem on April 05, 2018, 03:05:49 PM ---My arguments have been that there has already been time traveling shenanigans that have taken place and we are largely reading the resultant effects. So, Murphy has already gone back in time to ascend to Mab. ETC. ETC. We just need to get to the place in the books where we actually see the send off occur. Now, if you don't like that particular specific the template still stands. The time travel into the past has already occurred by many entities from very powerful to minor mortals. This way the series is preserved as read but there can still be minor fluctuations while we read the series due to free will, choices made, etc. We have to keep in mind that there is the possibility of these other Mirror realities like that which will occur in Mirror Mirror. These may have every right to exist like our own series, but I think our series read has 'Reader Preference.'
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See I would read this as a stable time loop, although I know that is not the exact definition. I just don't want to go back in time, come back and have Susan alive and not red-fected, Maggie still around, Molly not WL, Harry not WK etc.
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