The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Nick and the Cup (New Theory?)
groinkick:
Anduriel was locked in a Coin because he was considered untrustworthy. Perhaps Anduriel, and Nicodemus want the power to release Anduriel from the Coin, and to merge into some sort of super being. Or Anduriel will be freed and Nicodemus will be super powerful without the need of a Coin.
Kindler:
--- Quote from: groinkick on March 14, 2018, 06:27:17 PM ---Anduriel was locked in a Coin because he was considered untrustworthy. Perhaps Anduriel, and Nicodemus want the power to release Anduriel from the Coin, and to merge into some sort of super being. Or Anduriel will be freed and Nicodemus will be super powerful without the need of a Coin.
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That's an interesting possibility. Anduriel likely views its Coin as a prison, and could do much more if it wasn't bound to it. Maybe the Knife could be used in some kind of separation ritual, while the Grail was to keep Nicodemus alive after the separation; that feels like the kind of pact the two of them would make.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Kindler on March 14, 2018, 08:05:46 PM ---That's an interesting possibility. Anduriel likely views its Coin as a prison, and could do much more if it wasn't bound to it. Maybe the Knife could be used in some kind of separation ritual, while the Grail was to keep Nicodemus alive after the separation; that feels like the kind of pact the two of them would make.
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I dont think it would be possible given that the coins are apparently part of some Universal Free Will balancing act with the Swords. But if anything would allow them to up-end that whole scheme (for better or worse) I would be able to accept re-purposing the same Artifacts of Power that (theoretically) created the Christ in the first place.
raidem:
--- Quote ---Anduriel was locked in a Coin because he was considered untrustworthy. Perhaps Anduriel, and Nicodemus want the power to release Anduriel from the Coin, and to merge into some sort of super being. Or Anduriel will be freed and Nicodemus will be super powerful without the need of a Coin.
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Actually i had this thought long ago, well at least the part about freeing Anduriel from the coin. I even speculated wondering if Mac or Nick Christian was Anduriel after some time cycle had already occurred. That said, I also wondered if Nick Christian was this Nicodemus too. Going further out on a limb, I wondered if Nick Christian=Nicodemus=Malcolm Dresden.
It's pretty convoluted but with time cycles, redemption, second chances via balancing cheats I had wondered if it could be possible.
Kindler:
--- Quote from: Quantus on March 14, 2018, 08:37:21 PM ---I dont think it would be possible given that the coins are apparently part of some Universal Free Will balancing act with the Swords. But if anything would allow them to up-end that whole scheme (for better or worse) I would be able to accept re-purposing the same Artifacts of Power that (theoretically) created the Christ in the first place.
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My understanding of the Blackened Denarii is that it was Lucifer who bound thirty of his most troublesome employees to them to keep them out of contention for overthrowing the established order. These were those who had both ambition and enough power to make trouble for Lucy, especially working together. If anything could cancel out Lucy's binding, I'd imagine it would be something tied to the Anti-Lucifer. Not really sure the balance between thirty Coins and three Swords comes into play; just because something exists currently in balance doesn't mean that that balance can't be upturned—that was the crux of the plot in Summer Knight. It'd certainly be disastrous, but that's sort of the goal of Nic's plot.
And it'd also be cool to see what The White God does to counter such a move; I'd imagine Anduriel and Uriel wouldn't get along particularly well.
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