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If Jim handed off the series to someone else...

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Snark Knight:
Benedict Jacka's Alex Verus series is already heavily similar to the DF. It might be fun to see them write a short story in each other's universe or something.

Kindler:

--- Quote from: Lost Merlin on March 06, 2018, 05:25:49 PM ---For me, The story is great and like you pointed out Kindler it has gotten better and more in-depth as the series has continued.  I feel like Jim has developed as a writer, but I always get the sense that I am in a book rather then immersed in the Dresdenverse.   Conversations seem forced or telegraph where they are going, cases magically seem to link up with what else is going on in Chicago at the time.  Don't get me wrong I am not trying to put Jim down (not that my opinion matters) I just don't think that he is up there with the best writers.

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I promise, I wasn't offended or trying to diminish your opinion, just stating my own. Thumbs-up!

Immersion is a challenge for a lot of books. Personally, the last time I felt fully immersed in any book or scene was the first time I read 'Salem's Lot, particularly during the description of the Marsden House, which I was reading at 4 in the morning in an empty, creaky house. That was when I was dead certain vampires were coming for me, and clutched a cross for the remainder of the night (and the following two evenings).

I don't find many books particularly immersing, and haven't since 'Salem's Lot too many years ago to count. Not even when I read The Shining in an old hotel room by myself in an attempt to recreate the conditions. Feh. Could be why I'm not judging the Dresden Files harshly enough; I'd imagine your experience isn't unique.

jonas:

--- Quote from: Lost Merlin on March 06, 2018, 03:36:39 PM ---Its weird to say this considering how much I love the books and how much I am attached to the story, but to be honest, I don't feel that Jim is a top tier writer.  I think he is much better about building a universe or planning an adventure then he is connecting the points of his outline.

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I'm not saying I agree... or not lol. His writing has gotten better with experience, but that's natural. However... Eek Gads Man!? If he stays the course and this whole thing drops it's going to be considered a masterpiece on par with the Edda's or Beowulf. When I 'tried' my hand at writing it was really universe creation that tickled me.. a few years later I found the DF and fell head over heels for the most potent build I've ever seen.

groinkick:

--- Quote from: Kindler on March 06, 2018, 01:57:45 PM ---Context matters a lot for me; in this hypothetical, is Jim handing off a completed outline? As in, "Here are all of the plot details I've been dropping cryptic hints about for twenty years," or is this a case of (knocking on wood, crossing my fingers, throwing salt over my shoulder) an unexpected...demise...on the part of Mr. Butcher?

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Either or.  I'm mostly talking about Jim has decided he'd like to sell off the rights because he'd grown tired of the series but would like a strong writer to finish it for him, and gives him all his notes and ideas.  The only reason I thought of this is because Jim said he writes the dresden files to make the fans happy, and his new novel to make himself happy.

LordDresden2:

--- Quote from: wardenferry419 on March 06, 2018, 10:43:06 AM ---I concur with the creative team change, especially how it applies to comics. What I would give to have a return to Claremont days of X-men.

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That was in fact one of the things I was thinking about when I commented that when the author changes, the story and characters change.  I remember a change in author for the old New Mutants title, sometime around issue 50.  Literally instantly, the characters became other people, esp. Xavier.

When Claremont finally left X-Men in the early 90s, it instantly became a different book, a different story, the characters were different people, I mean the change was almost instantaneous...and I don't believe it was intentional.

JB once commented of the historical chain of Merlins of the White Council that almost all of them think they are doing roughly what Merlin himself would be doing in their situation...and mostly they have been wrong.

I think something similar happens with changing writers or writing teams in real life, they think they're continuing the story and characterization the way the previous writer would have...and usually they are wrong.

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