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wardenferry419:
Elaine is trying to stay as low-profile and under-the-radar as possible; that is really hard to do if you are hanging around someone as infamous as Harry. Besides, her feelings for Harry are more like a memory of what was and not anything that she is currently feeling.

Kindler:
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I think that Elaine is Somewhere Between Good and Neutral on the scale of Good and Evil. Most of her actions that may be viewed negatively feel like the result of being betrayed by pretty much everyone she's ever met, except Harry. It's enough to make anyone twitchy and distrusting. Most of the things Elaine does seem like part of an ongoing effort to cobble together some kind of life for herself after the devastation Justin left behind.

Plus, you know—mind control. Murphy spent years after Grave Peril totally screwed up, and that was a single attack; she'd never been turned into a thrall. What happened to Elaine may have been significantly worse, and the damage might be permanent. I'd imagine it's something like picking up several phobias, neuroses, and tics all at once.

Quantus:

--- Quote from: Kindler on March 05, 2018, 05:10:52 PM ---Maybe I'm in the minority, but I think that Elaine is Somewhere Between Good and Neutral on the scale of Good and Evil. Most of her actions that may be viewed negatively feel like the result of being betrayed by pretty much everyone she's ever met, except Harry. It's enough to make anyone twitchy and distrusting. Most of the things Elaine does seem like part of an ongoing effort to cobble together some kind of life for herself after the devastation Justin left behind.

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Most of this would perfectly apply to Harry as well.


--- Quote ---Plus, you know—mind control. Murphy spent years after Grave Peril totally screwed up, and that was a single attack; she'd never been turned into a thrall. What happened to Elaine may have been significantly worse, and the damage might be permanent. I'd imagine it's something like picking up several phobias, neuroses, and tics all at once.

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What's more, she was (presumably) betrayed by her adoptive father at a particularly formative age; that alone makes it potentially quite a bit more damaging that what Murphy faced.


For better or worse, there really are only two camps when if comes to Elaine:  Either you believe her initial assertion that she was not complicit with Justin's attack on Harry, at which point everything that follows can make perfect sense given her trauma, trust-issues, and stated life-goals. Or you think she was a willing accomplice with Justin's Black Magic, and what little we've seen her say and do since then is all potentially just part of a Long Con and is 100% lies and manipulation.

jonas:

--- Quote ---there really are only two camps when if comes to Elaine:
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Nothing about her originally being a victim precludes her continuity as a villainous fiend. Personally I find her original trauma to be entirely that, trauma... She has since been practically raised by the Sidhe since then, and one that went off kilter at that. I find her a great and intentionally ambiguous character. Whom I do find to be cowardly/selfish. It's Not really her prime personality, but deep inside she's still that scared little girl and the defense mechanisms it relies on are very base instinctive things. You see it come out of her quite a few times... and most any time she's directly rose above it she took the edge from Harry's lead.(in SK with the thorns, him pleading mercy when captured and VS Pricilla's psychic attack.)
She's damaged inside, and well written for it imo.

LordDresden2:

--- Quote from: wardenferry419 on March 04, 2018, 09:14:57 PM ---Elaine is trying to stay as low-profile and under-the-radar as possible; that is really hard to do if you are hanging around someone as infamous as Harry. Besides, her feelings for Harry are more like a memory of what was and not anything that she is currently feeling.

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The first is true.  We can't be sure about the second without violating the Third Law.

We don't really know exactly what's in Elaine's head, or heart, with regard to Harry.

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