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exartiem:
A wild theory just popped (or pooped) into my head.  Dumorne was actually Kemmler.  Theory is as follows:

Dumorne, as a warden, is in on the final battle with Kemmler.  Kemmler, realizing he was cut off from any escape, jumps into Dumorne a la Corpsetaker seconds before the kill blow is struck.  Justin, in Kemmler's body, is killed.  Justin/Kemmler retires from the wardens, retrieves Bob's skull and the rest is history.

Snark Knight:
It's been suggested before. My main sticking point with that one is that in all Kemmler's time holding Bob's skull, through whatever body jumps he made, he still presented himself to Bob as the same old master, just wearing a different meat suit. Given that Bob is under the pretty clear impression Justin was just Justin, the body swap theory requires an explanation for why he'd bother deceiving his servitor spirit.

Also, I'm pretty sure by the end of his career with all the sick things he did, Kemmler would have been so twisted that he'd have a very difficult time pulling off the stern but ultimately benevolent adoptive father routine he carried off for a couple years trying to indoctrinate Harry and Elaine. Even his apprentices had pretty much gone past being able to pass as not evil-creepy-nuts in a five minute conversation even when it would have been useful to them.

exartiem:
Okay, first:  Kemmler instructs the skull to keep his true identity secret.  This is the beginning of the separation of Bob and Evil Bob.  When Bob separates and suppresses the memories of Evil Bob, the memory of his old master's true ID is included.

How fast have the Warloks gone sick-o that we have seen?  A few days to maybe a couple of years?  Kemmler was unspeakably evil for over a century and still able to be active and keep off the Wardens' radars for decades at a time.  He obviously was able to moderate his behavior.

Griffyn612:

--- Quote ---“I don’t remember very much of it.”
"Bob. You never forget anything.”
“No,”Bob said. His voice shrank into something very small. "Unless I want to, Harry.”
“You’re saying that you chose to forget things about Kemmler.”
“Or was compelled to,” Bob said.

--- End quote ---
Based on this, Bob isn't sure who had him forget Kemmler.  He just knows he forgot.


--- Quote ---“Too late!  Whatever you have done to my thoughts, the master will not be pleased that you have meddled with his servant.” ... “Do you know how long I’ve been waiting for that?” the spirit purred, drifting back and forth over me. “Sitting there locked behind my own thoughts? Waiting for the chance to fight free? Finally, you thick-witted ogre, I get to leave your stupidity behind.”
--- End quote ---
Based on what Evil Bob said in Dead Beat, we can surmise that he knows everything Bob knows (including that DuMorne was killed).  We can also surmise that Evil Bob still thinks Kemmler is alive, and that he too doesn't know who made him forget.  Which is interesting, because you'd think one or the other would know if they did it, of their own volition or by someone else's.

It suggests that someone might have had Evil Bob suppressed, and had both versions forget why it was done.  Talk about double secret probation.

Harry clearly didn't do it. 

DuMorne-DuMorne could have, but why would he have both Bob's forget the order?  He might have wanted some but not all of Kemmler's knowledge for himself, and wouldn't want to deal with Evil Bob's attitude all the time.  But why forget the forgetting?

Kemmler-DuMorne could have, but why bother?  He would want to keep his assistant intact to continue helping him.  I could see him maybe wanting to seal the more dangerous stuff away, in case Harry or Elaine came across the skull.  But again, why forget the forgetting?  He could have easily told Evil Bob that it was a precaution.

Kemmler-Kemmler has a good reason to seal Evil Bob away.  If he knew the Council Wardens were about to catch him, he wouldn't want his secrets to be easily revealed.  But you'd think he'd put better safeguards in place to keep people away from the knowledge.  Otherwise when Bob says he doesn't recall, they'd ask him to try, and then Evil Bob would be there. 

Maybe forgetting the forgetting was an extra precaution to lower the odds that someone would ask the right thing to bring Evil Bob back?

jonas:
The wild theory is that Kemmler was pulling duplicates of himself from alternate realities much as MM Harry has learned from Bob, and like with MM Harry the 7th time Summons more than is bargained for... Justin was actually alternate Kemmler O.o

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