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raidem:

--- Quote ---I've been thinking about this quite a bit with regards to Proven Guilty, and I'm not sure that the Rule of Conservation of History will (necessarily) apply here, at least in the grand scheme of things; I think that Dresden, heading back to Proven Guilty, already helped shape the events of Proven Guilty, so Time Travel Harry's presence is already part of this "history." Because the books only ever detail the already-changed timeline, I think that the only danger to Conservation of History is if Harry doesn't go back. Basically, I think that Harry had created a stable time loop, and any adventure into the past will reveal that he had already changed it. This may manifest itself as Harry preserving the timeline as best he can while someone is running around trying to muck it up, and inadvertently causing some of the events of Proven Guilty.

Does that make sense to anyone else, or am I just talking out of my posterior?

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Well, since we are already going with this as the set up explanation. I'll say there has already been a stable time loop back in time in which Murphy ascended to Mab.  So, there isn't much danger to 'conservation of history' as long as Murphy does go back to ascend to be Mab.

Hmm. Maybe there will be a Murphy that ascends to become Mab during Proven Guilty somewhere in some parallel reality.  Murphy could ascend to become 1000+ years ago, during Proven Guilty, around the time of Cold Days, or sometime in teh future.  These would be events in our reality or parallel realities in which Mab was potentially 'vulnerable.'

beetnemesis:

--- Quote from: Kindler on February 26, 2018, 02:46:55 PM ---About the missing Fae book: Good catch, but it doesn't seem like a book is missing. From Small Favor, page 24 on Nook:

To me, the exchange indicates that Dresden knows there's an entry in one of the books, but not which one, so he's doing broad research with things that are available to him. The outlier is the Calvin and Hobbes book. Harry eventually finds the entry on the eighth one, so it doesn't look like anything is missing.

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I had misspoke, before- what I actually meant to say is that a time-traveler took some OTHER book, not related to Gruffs. Maybe he needed a book, but didn't want a gap in the spines to show, and so used a different one? 

Not sure, to be honest. However, I do think that a time traveler is responsible for that book there. It's not like Harry is reading Calvin and Hobbes down in his lab, nor would he store the book there!


Kindler:

--- Quote from: beetnemesis on March 05, 2018, 06:34:35 PM ---I had misspoke, before- what I actually meant to say is that a time-traveler took some OTHER book, not related to Gruffs. Maybe he needed a book, but didn't want a gap in the spines to show, and so used a different one? 

Not sure, to be honest. However, I do think that a time traveler is responsible for that book there. It's not like Harry is reading Calvin and Hobbes down in his lab, nor would he store the book there!

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I think it's Bonnie's:


--- Quote from: Kindler on February 21, 2018, 05:32:55 PM ---I think Bonnie came with him. She hasn't graduated to trashy romance novels yet; she's still on comics. And she would've been able to help Harry remember what the specific flaws were.

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YoungestGruff:

--- Quote from: Kindler on February 21, 2018, 05:32:55 PM ---I think Bonnie came with him. She hasn't graduated to trashy romance novels yet; she's still on comics. And she would've been able to help Harry remember what the specific flaws were.

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That sounds plausible. Makes more sense then bringing Maggie along, too; Bonnie can contribute in a meaningful fashion.

But, you know, why bring Bonnie and not Bob? (Well, obviously, something's going to happen that makes Bonnie a better, or indeed the only . . . Oh. Oh, no.)

jonas:
Bonnie likely see's more of existence than Bob does being born from angelic roots, she probably see's the 'faith-length' and it's attributes easier. Like space/time...

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