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--- Quote from: knnn on February 16, 2018, 12:48:09 PM ---So here's my take:

We have two datapoints:

1) In Turn Coat, Harry makes a certain connection between Rashid's mention of a grudge and the limp that Demonreach appears to have.

2) WoJ that the limp was caused by a glacier and Rashid "focused the tank" (which I personally take to mean that Rashid and DR were on the same side).

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First thing is, how could a glacier affect Demonreach?

a) Either Demonreach was created before the glacier appeared -- kinda hard since the last time the glaciers retreated was ~20,000 years ago.   Granted the original Merlin did some timey-wimey stuff during creation, but still, Merlin himself was around ~1500 years ago, so why build Demonreach already wounded?

b) The second (and more likely IMHO) is that Demonreach got wounded with a glacier *after* it was created.    How did this happen?   Again, timey-wimey stuff.   We've seen in Cold Days that the way to attack Demonreach is through some time-related magic.    Obviously there was a previous assault.   Consider the following notion:   The bad guys cast a spell to divert a glacier 20,000 years ago so that it will overrun the foundations of Demonreach, retroactively weakening/destroying him.

For bonus points, take a look at the Amber Chronicles  (either book 9 or 10) where someone tries to attack Corwin's Pattern in a similar manner.   Jim's extensive connection with the Amberverse might be a clue here.

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So if Demonreach was being attacked with time-related magic, maybe Rashid didn't make his top priority stopping the spell -- attacking things in "real time" instead.   This ultimately worked (Demonreach is still standing), but Demonreach did get partially injured, which is why it still holds a grudge.

Final note is that Rashid might have well known that he was doing thing inefficiently, but had different priorities.   As an example, if innocent lives were at stake, Rashid might have preferred to prioritize saving them, knowing that Demonreach can take a beating.

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3rd Option on Demonreach:  The Genus Loci (and the Limp) predate the creation of the Well itself, and was presumably one of the reasons that site was chosen. 

raidem:

--- Quote ---For bonus points, take a look at the Amber Chronicles  (either book 9 or 10) where someone tries to attack Corwin's Pattern in a similar manner.   Jim's extensive connection with the Amberverse might be a clue here.

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Wait, didn't they try to use Earthquakes to destroy Corwin's Pattern?

I think you got it Knnn, or at least partially.  Team Bad attempted to use natural forces to injure/destroy Demonreach. 

This lends credence to my belief that something important is being guarded near Demonreach, near Yggdrasil on the Planar Level.  It is something that is similar to Corwin's Pattern that lies near Yggdrasil.  And we do know that Yggdrasil and Demonreach seem to intersect with Yggdrasil's roots reaching toward Demonreach's prison. 

Lost Merlin:
Do we know that the limp was caused maliciously? Could it be that the island used to be larger or connected to the mainland, but was cut away by a glacier naturally? This would cause the Genus Loci was 'stranded' and cut off from what used to be a much larger area/domain.  This would explain why even with the well spring, the Genus Loci is so powerful as well?

Kindler:
I think that Demonreach, as the genius loci of the island, is a personification of what the island is and what it has been through. When Merlin "built" Demonreach, he pulled resources that were already there. The island remembers the damage that was done to it by the glacier, so that damage is built into the personification as well.

Lost Merlin:


I am getting two different thoughts here from this, maybe you could help me understand.

 The last sentence makes sense to me. 

--- Quote from: Kindler on February 16, 2018, 03:15:13 PM --- The island remembers the damage that was done to it by the glacier, so that damage is built into the personification as well.

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This is the part that has me confused. 


--- Quote from: Kindler on February 16, 2018, 03:15:13 PM ---I think that Demonreach, as the genius loci of the island, is a personification of what the island is and what it has been through. When Merlin "built" Demonreach, he pulled resources that were already there.

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Are you insinuating that Merlin was responsible for building the Genius Loci as well as the prison on Demonreach?

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