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Cozarkian:
The word fumble means to use one's hands clumsily. However, if JB said Rashid fumbled in the football context, it would not be reasonable to argue Rashid was a linebacker that failed to prevent a touchdown because he clumsily used his hands during an attempted tackle. It would be clear that Rashid had possession of the ball and dropped it before he was down.

For the same reason as above, if Rashid focused the tank in the LoL context the only reasonable interpretation is that Rashid and DR were on the same team and Rashid attacked the wrong target.

The WOJ said we got the pieces we need in Cold Days. In CD the barges were the tank (the big obvious target that wants to be the target) and Maeve/Lily were the carries (the main offensive threat). Thus, we can conclude Rashid was a defender in a similar attack  and focused on the barges.

This also fits with JB's clarification that it is a little more complicated than a positive-negative situation. That's because the barges weren't just a tank, they were also a legitimate offensive threat in their own right, just a lesser one than Maeve. Thus, one can't definitively say that Rashid made a mistake by focusing the barges, whereas focusing the tank in a team fight is always a clear cut negative.

With regard to the OP, it's possible Cowl was doing something else while Harry went after the red king, but calling the red Kinga tank would imply teamwork and I think it more likely that the reds were being used by, rather than working with Cowl.

groinkick:

--- Quote from: Cozarkian on February 14, 2018, 07:23:09 PM ---The word fumble means to use one's hands clumsily. However, if JB said Rashid fumbled in the football context, it would not be reasonable to argue Rashid was a linebacker that failed to prevent a touchdown because he clumsily used his hands during an attempted tackle. It would be clear that Rashid had possession of the ball and dropped it before he was down.

For the same reason as above, if Rashid focused the tank in the LoL context the only reasonable interpretation is that Rashid and DR were on the same team and Rashid attacked the wrong target.

The WOJ said we got the pieces we need in Cold Days. In CD the barges were the tank (the big obvious target that wants to be the target) and Maeve/Lily were the carries (the main offensive threat). Thus, we can conclude Rashid was a defender in a similar attack  and focused on the barges.

This also fits with JB's clarification that it is a little more complicated than a positive-negative situation. That's because the barges weren't just a tank, they were also a legitimate offensive threat in their own right, just a lesser one than Maeve. Thus, one can't definitively say that Rashid made a mistake by focusing the barges, whereas focusing the tank in a team fight is always a clear cut negative.

With regard to the OP, it's possible Cowl was doing something else while Harry went after the red king, but calling the red Kinga tank would imply teamwork and I think it more likely that the reds were being used by, rather than working with Cowl.

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Actually I think it would mean that He Who Walks Before was the Tank, and if Harry wasted too much time on him, he would have "focused" the Tank.  Luckily Harry had Soulfire, and sent Before packing.

Cozarkian:

--- Quote from: groinkick on February 14, 2018, 07:11:33 PM ---If Jim said that Cold Days was a clue about Rashid then it may be in fact that he locked down Alfred while others attacked a more vulnerable area.  Sometimes the roll of the Tank is to protect the rest of a group (A Raid, where the group faces a Boss type character), or in this case, the Island from attack.  One way to defeat the group is to lock down the Tank (through a mechanic known as crowd control), preventing them from providing protection.

For instance in a Raid the Tank focuses on grabbing aggro (aggression from the Boss), while the others launch an attack.  It is an absolute must to keep the Tank alive, if the Tank dies the weaker classes get slaughtered by the Boss.  Some ways this happens is the Tank gets crowd controlled (loss of control of character), and the Boss slaughters the group.  If Rashid locked down or "focused" Alfred (contained him in a powerful Ward for example), that means the Island was vulnerable to attack from others.

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This is where the League of Legends reference is important. Carries (dps in raid terms) have moves that allow them to escape. Thus, you generally need your "cc" to prevent the carry from getting away while bursting the carry down. You might also use cc to protect your own carry from an assassin (highly mobile burst dps designed to quickly kill a carry). You generally don't want to use cc on the tank.

Cozarkian:

--- Quote from: groinkick on February 14, 2018, 07:27:22 PM ---Actually I think it would mean that He Who Walks Before was the Tank, and if Harry wasted too much time on him, he would have "focused" the Tank.  Luckily Harry had Soulfire, and sent Before packing.

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That is a good observation. Sharkface could be the tank, the barges the ADC (attack damage carry) and Maeve would be a split pusher.

raidem:
Yep, Harry magic had extra sting against sharkface that Rashid lacked.

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