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Could Maggie have taken up a Coin?

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wardenferry419:
Butters manage to manipulate magically forces, powered by Bob, like an engineer.

Mr. Death:

--- Quote from: wardenferry419 on February 20, 2018, 12:54:55 AM ---Butters manage to manipulate magically forces, powered by Bob, like an engineer.

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More that Butters engineered things for Bob to power and manipulate. Bob is the one doing all the leg work.

LordDresden2:

--- Quote from: Mr. Death on February 19, 2018, 01:19:11 PM ---I'm not talking about whether the power source is there or not.

I'm talking about the ability to manipulate that power source.

I'm positing that someone who's given up their magic has lost the tools to manipulate and shape that power source. Just like, for instance, a talented, experienced surgeon can no longer perform surgery if you took away their hands.

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Yeah, but it's two different potentials.  What Harry and his ilk have that other people don't is a great ability to take in and use magical energy from outside themselves.  Harry even has more of that than most Council Wizards.

But the power for a death curse comes from inside.  You don't have to find it, draw it in, etc., it's already there waiting to be used...if you don't mind losing the purpose it's already serving.  That's why even when entrapped in a circle that cuts off outside magical energy, it can still be used.

So it's not clear that you need any special abilities to do a death curse, just the necessary knowledge and skills.

forumghost:
I don't think that a non-practitioner can do it, simply because pure Muggles (like Butter's) even possessing the necessary knowledge, lack the simple ability to manipulate the energy for the spell- so even if they have the life-force, they can't channel it.

And even if they did, it wouldn't be worth it. Even small-timers like Cassius can only pull off a rubbish Death Curse, it's really only relevant with higher-end Magic users. A regular mortal would probably just produce the equivalent of Darth Wannabe's Bad Feng Shui Curse.

Not really worth killing yourself for.

groinkick:

--- Quote from: forumghost on February 20, 2018, 05:28:46 AM ---I don't think that a non-practitioner can do it, simply because pure Muggles (like Butter's) even possessing the necessary knowledge, lack the simple ability to manipulate the energy for the spell- so even if they have the life-force, they can't channel it.

And even if they did, it wouldn't be worth it. Even small-timers like Cassius can only pull off a rubbish Death Curse, it's really only relevant with higher-end Magic users. A regular mortal would probably just produce the equivalent of Darth Wannabe's Bad Feng Shui Curse.

Not really worth killing yourself for.

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lol if a 100% non magical user tried it would be like Mad Eye Moody said.  You wouldn't even give them a bloody nose.

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