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apgrey:
  In Blood Rites Lord Raith tells Harry he heard the conversation between Harry and Thomas in the portrait room.
  He did not know Harry was Thomas' brother before that.  So, I don't think he realized Harry is the son of Margaret LeFay.  Many do know that, but it is a detail Lord Raith might have missed.

APG

Kindler:

--- Quote from: apgrey on February 13, 2018, 06:12:26 PM ---  In Blood Rites Lord Raith tells Harry he heard the conversation between Harry and Thomas in the portrait room.
  He did not know Harry was Thomas' brother before that.  So, I don't think he realized Harry is the son of Margaret LeFay.  Many do know that, but it is a detail Lord Raith might have missed.

APG

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Fair enough. I usually start my re-reads Dead Beat, and wind up skipping over Blood Rites (least favorite in the series), so my memory of it isn't as clear as I'd like it to be.

forumghost:

--- Quote from: apgrey on February 13, 2018, 06:12:26 PM ---  In Blood Rites Lord Raith tells Harry he heard the conversation between Harry and Thomas in the portrait room.
  He did not know Harry was Thomas' brother before that.  So, I don't think he realized Harry is the son of Margaret LeFay.  Many do know that, but it is a detail Lord Raith might have missed.

APG


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Because Lord Raith is apparently an idiot.

Like really dude? It's very much public knowledge. It was at his trial. Nick knows, as do random low-level demons. Thomas knew for years at this point.

And yet you, Mr Super-Vamp leader of the White Court, only just realized?

Mr. Death:

--- Quote from: forumghost on February 13, 2018, 10:42:56 PM ---Because Lord Raith is apparently an idiot.

Like really dude? It's very much public knowledge. It was at his trial. Nick knows, as do random low-level demons. Thomas knew for years at this point.

And yet you, Mr Super-Vamp leader of the White Court, only just realized?

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Repeat after me: The characters do not have access to the information we do. Just because a character doesn't have access to all 15 books and WOJ does not make them an idiot.

It's never been "public knowledge." What makes you think that White Council trials are public? They don't exactly put a notice in the local paper.

Even if it was knowledge among the wizards, what's the big thing wizards are known for? Not sharing what they know.

Nick knew Maggie personally, and, unlike Lord Raith, did have a frame of reference for how family works. It's a plot point in Changes that Lord Raith didn't even catch on that Maggie and Ebenezer were related, remember.

forumghost:
If Thomas knew -before he'd even met Harry at that- then obviously the information was out there readily available. Lord Raith just didn't care enough to find out.

Also, Raith totally knew how family works. He deliberately instilled a sense of family loyalty in his children to make them less likely to rebel against him, remember?

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