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Kumori's Identity-Elaine and Harry's daughter-Faith Astor
peregrine:
Timeline doesn't work out. For Harry to not know, Elaine would have had to be pregnant shortly before everything went to hell, otherwise he'd have seen the signs. Harry is 16 when that happens. He's 23 or 24 when he meets Faith, who is emphatic about her being 10 years old.
ALSO, Jim has already done the "secret kid" thing once before, it'd be bad story telling to go to that well again.
ALSO ALSO, there's no evidence whatsoever that Faith was adopted.
raidem:
I just pointed out the NeverNever as a means to make Faith Astor's age not line up with the Timeline. Elaine did in fact seek shelter in Summer, part of the Nevernever that may have different rates of time relative to Earth Time.
So, around Harry's and Elaine's age of 16, Harry defeats Justin and burns down the house. Pregnant Elaine would be 16'ish. She sought shelter in Summer where she gave birth to Faith. Faith's age of 10 includes part of NeverNever age and part of Earth time.
--- Quote ---ALSO, Jim has already done the "secret kid" thing once before, it'd be bad story telling to go to that well again.
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Jim has already done the "secret kid" twice. Maggie Jr. and then Bonnie. No reason to stop now.
--- Quote ---ALSO ALSO, there's no evidence whatsoever that Faith was adopted.
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The Astors treat Faith as a trophy of the perfect child for their parties, then really have little to do with her other than that. I don't think that has the feel of real Mother/Father child bond. When the parents find out that Faith has escaped they hire Harry and Nick to retrieve her. Then Lie about Harry and Nick having kidnapped them. The Parents are already engaged in deceit, deception. I see no reason why their parentage of Faith isn't deception too.
peregrine:
Yeah, but living in the NN for a long period of time does bad things to humans, unless they were importing food for her and her kid. And as far as I recall, we don't have any evidence that Elaine actually was living in the NN, just under the protection of Titania, who we saw has other sites in the real world. Plus, when Harry tries to reach out to Elaine, he's running through the changes to her Name to try to make contact, and having a kid would be a major part of that that he doesn't take into account.
raidem:
"I got out of the house before you and Justin were finished," she said finally. "His spells had begun to unravel, and I was struggling against them. Confused, terrified. I must have run. I don't even remember doing it." "But where have you been?" I asked. "Elaine, I looked for you for years. Years." "Where you couldn't have found me, Harry. You or anyone else. I found sanctuary. A place to hide. But there was a price, and that's why I'm here." She looked up at me, and though her features were calm and smooth, I could see the fear in her eyes, hear it coloring her voice. "I'm in trouble."
We later find out that Titania provided that shelter.
"It's complicated," she said. "But the short version is that I was granted asylum by the Summer Court of the Sidhe."
That suggests Elaine sought shelter in the Summer Court. And, we know that Harry survived with Earth food for a few months in Arctis Tor with mortal food. I don't think it is beyond impossibility that food, etc was provided for Elaine and her child, if she had one. It could mean, if true, that Elaine is protecting her child from being known.
I think we need to keep track of all of Harry's flings, to include Harry's fling with Mab on the stone table. We don't know exactly what all became of that. I mean we saw that a Bonnie was created via a Fallen's shadow and Harry. Harry banging Mab on a Stone Table in a region where the Stone Table exists may be more "Real" in a qualitative manner than even in the real world. Harry did after all sacrifice Slate on the Stone Table. He had as much physicality to do that. This then opens the question as to what becomes of this possible conception. I mean if we go down this angle I could have Marcone, Faith Astor, or some other figures as potentially being Mab/Harry's offspring but with a timetravel origin.
peregrine:
Yes, but we've also seen that both Winter and Summer have outposts in the real world, in the under city for Winter and wherever that building was for Summer.
Basically, for Faith to be Harry's kid, the following needs to be true.
Elaine got pregnant shortly before everything went to hell
AND she found shelter with Summer in the Never-Never
AND it was a part of the Never-Never that was at a higher speed
AND she then gave up that child
AND that child somehow didn't remember any of the other stuff in the Never-Never despite living there for at least two years, and probably more
AND Elaine didn't mention it to Harry
AND didn't even let it affect her enough to change her Name
AND she then got adopted by a family in the same city in which Harry was living
AND her adopted parents decided to call Harry's boss to get her back when she ran away Admittedly, this doesn't require the assumptions, given that it's a strong focus of the company Harry worked for
VS
Faith is the biological child of jackass parents who live in Chicago
And that's without getting into her being Kumori on top of that.
Granted, technically, if you're willing to bring time travel into it (again) I can't authoritatively disprove it. But it requires so many specific, highly unlikely, things to happen, it's really not a reasonable theory.
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