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Kumori's Identity-Elaine and Harry's daughter-Faith Astor

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raidem:
Yeah. I don't think it is an impossibility either. It may/may not be Winter Law. It is however something 'wrong' to do when it comes to supernatural powers.

raidem:

--- Quote ---"Your offspring. Your firstborn. And in exchange I will give you the knowledge you seek."
"News flash, Goldilocks. I don't have any children."
Maeve laughed. "Naturally not. But the details could be arranged."
--- End quote ---

Does the "naturally not" instead of "no" add to some wiggle room.

I don't have any children.  Naturally...No.
The question then is can Maeve say "unnaturally not."

Naturally:

--- Quote ---Naturally: You use naturally to indicate that you think something is very obvious and not at all surprising in the circumstances. 
--- End quote ---
Hah. Maeve just told him right then he was wrong. She agreed it was very obvious and not all all suprising, then negated everything when she added NOT to it.  Harry and we took it to mean she had agreed with Harry.  Her phrase however allows for another meaning which is what the fae do.  They lie to you by twisting the truth and words.

Anyways, for Faith to be Kumori, without anymore NN and time travel, she would be around 16ish at the time of Grave Peril, 20ish at the time of Dead Beat.  I'd argue however that it is clear Kumori has traveled the NN so her age can be skewed as a result.

peregrine:
Naturally not is not the same as "not naturally."

In fact, your dictionary use there specifically does NOT say that she told him he was wrong.  She thinks it's obviously that he doesn't have any kids.

Theoretically, she could simply be wrong.  Elaine is under Summer's protection, not Winters, so she might just not know.

But then we're back to the laundry list of unlikely issues that all need to have happened for Harry to have a yet another extra unknown kid. 

peregrine:
Yeah, I'm sorry, but no.  Naturally is modifying Not, rather than Not modifying Naturally.  Arguing otherwise is getting into some Humpty Dumpty "When I use a word, it means what I choose it to mean, nothing more, nothing less" stuff.

You want to argue that she is wrong, sure.  But to argue that "Naturally not" REALLY means "Yes."  No.  Absolutely not.

raidem:
Fine, I'll drop that argument and simply fall back to she can lie.

She is aware of an existing offspring of Harry's and she wants Harry to make a deal concerning (him,her).  We know that in the very same book where Maeve is talking about Harry's offspring, Harry's lover (Elaine) years ago comes back on seen and is in a big plot to unbalance Winter and SUmmer. Elaine is debted to Summer.  It makes sense that Maeve would want to gain influence over Elaine.  She even tries to immediately after this conversation when the WK comes back with Elaine's blood on a dagger.  It was burnt with fire however.

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