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Grey Council Members Poll Yet Again, Mortals Only
Lost Merlin:
I would like to think that Langtry would know of the GC's existence but is not a member, merely a condoning (as long as they stay in the shadows) ally.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Lost Merlin on February 14, 2018, 07:13:28 PM ---I would like to think that Langtry would know of the GC's existence but is not a member, merely a condoning (as long as they stay in the shadows) ally.
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I counter that by saying Id like to think that The Blackstaff would be capable of keeping the secret, and unless he is very intentionally lying to Harry, then he created the GC specifically because he was not getting the Merlin's support the way he thought he should. I just dont see either of them going the GC route if they were working together on it; there'd be nothing stopping Eb from simply establishing his own group of Wardens like I assume the Brute Squad was for Simon.
Lost Merlin:
--- Quote from: Quantus on February 15, 2018, 04:42:25 PM ---I counter that by saying Id like to think that The Blackstaff would be capable of keeping the secret, and unless he is very intentionally lying to Harry, then he created the GC specifically because he was not getting the Merlin's support the way he thought he should. I just dont see either of them going the GC route if they were working together on it; there'd be nothing stopping Eb from simply establishing his own group of Wardens like I assume the Brute Squad was for Simon.
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First, I agree if the Blackstaff wants to keep a secret, he will most likely be able to do that. Including from the Merlin. I think the Merlin knows because he isn't dumb. (don't get to be leader ... bottlecaps, so on and so forth) Merlin is at the head of a powerful Magical organization, who granted is short staffed, but is still a major power in the world. He should have the intellect and knowledge to see what is going on.
I think there is a difference between supporting something and acting on it as the Head of a Major Power. Take in to account the scene in the Worry Room in Changes between the Merlin and Harry. They all think the peace is a joke, but have to put on the airs of trying. Same thing could be said of this. Merlin needs to put on airs officially that there is no BC, hence there is no need for a GC to combat them.
Bacchus:
hmm can someone explain how the merlin could be on it?
It was very clear that secrecy was of extreme importance because they could be labeled as the black council etc etc
merlin controls a few council votes Ebenezer has a few allies and between them they would have an easy majority of the senior council and could do whatever they hell they want.
In wars they make groups of solders for covert ops all the time. That wouldn't be controversial at all to effectively be replacing the brute squad that got killed.
If more than 3 senior council members joined or merlin was involved it would seem delta force type secrecy and not high treason secrecy which is what the book clearly indicates to me.
i don't think merlin is dark because there were a few times when he could have easily destroyed the council or let them be killed off.
I think hes old and set in his ways and Ebeneezer thinks his ways will lead to defeat.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Lost Merlin on February 15, 2018, 05:32:02 PM ---First, I agree if the Blackstaff wants to keep a secret, he will most likely be able to do that. Including from the Merlin. I think the Merlin knows because he isn't dumb. (don't get to be leader ... bottlecaps, so on and so forth) Merlin is at the head of a powerful Magical organization, who granted is short staffed, but is still a major power in the world. He should have the intellect and knowledge to see what is going on.
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Your saying that McCoy /could hide it from Langtry but has chosen not to?
--- Quote ---I think there is a difference between supporting something and acting on it as the Head of a Major Power. Take in to account the scene in the Worry Room in Changes between the Merlin and Harry. They all think the peace is a joke, but have to put on the airs of trying. Same thing could be said of this. Merlin needs to put on airs officially that there is no BC, hence there is no need for a GC to combat them.
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That's the thing though, as the merlin he could accomplish all the same things without the MASSIVE liability that the GC poses should it become known (as outlined by Harry and Em at its founding). An Officially sanctioned but still very Secret task force or Wardens could accomplish exactly the same thing with no political fallout if they are revealed. The only reason they have to take the Risk with the GC is if they are being forced to because they cannot operate within the WC, which would be superior in all ways.
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