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Harry's paralysis long term foreshadowing?

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raidem:
Let's take one of these Harry's to Demonreach, imagine if Harry finds himself as an inmate in Demonreach.  He talks with his prior self, and tells him to piss off. And of course, our Harry wants to piss on him as a joke :)

The prisoner Harry at some point needs to exchange positions with our Harry, with our Harry going along the course of events that Prisoner Harry went through. This would add another goal in Cold Days. To either jail brake a not ready PrisonerHarry, or kill the PrisonerHarry with the banefire.

kris.vickers:
I like this. But, I'd nudge it further and suggest that since we don't know how far into the skid Jim will steer, theoretically we can call anyone that hasn't been identified as Dresden. The british sounding guy in the prison, cowl, even demonreach itself. Lots of people have their evidence loaded and pointed towards the original Merlin. But if there is time manipulation coming, then I'd like to suggest the movie Paycheck's premise. Everything Ben Affleck critically needed was provided from a future version of him. So lets say that Harry is at the End of the BAT, and (mixing my movies in a blender here) pulls a Matthew Mcconaughey in Interstellar, sending the past messages to produce the proper outcome. Jim has let us see through Dresden's eyes and thought process about the boundaries of his world that have become further and further out. Now the outer gates and outsiders are the limit. After that...?
Any nagging little bits from previous books come up that by themselves are innocent but by looking at them from a point of view of hints at what's beyond the outer gates? Or what can be bigger than Odin, or Hades, or angels, or nickel heads or knights?

raidem:
Well, if you read the end of book 10 of the Amber series, I think you might get a glimpse of what Harry becomes. :)
Amber is a cosmic Order vs. Chaos fight. There were hints that there was something else (abyss).  The author died so the series was left hanging with Merlin becoming...

In the Amber books, I don't think Merlin ever really encounters himself.  There is a Cowl in Amber... I was about to ruin the plot. Sorry.
(It's another thing that is similar between Dresden Files and Amber) (Cowl with the sounds of their voice muffled by a spell) (saying "I Love you" plot tied into it)  You will find many things 'borrowed' from Amber to include travel within the nevernever to parallel worlds.

Kindler:

--- Quote from: kris.vickers on January 30, 2018, 11:35:29 PM ---Anyone have any HUGE moments that without Harry there; or Harry making an evil choice would have massive implications?

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I misread this and started writing a lengthy post about the many, many things that could have changed as a result of Grave Peril before I realized you were talking about alternate split-universe points.

I've long campaigned for Harry choosing to use Amoracchius against Lea in the graveyard as a candidate for a split point. I won't tire those who have read it many times before, but basically the entirety of Grave Peril plays out differently if he doesn't make the Sword vulnerable (Michael may not have been involved; Harry may not have gone to the party; Susan might've just died (thereby negating Maggie/all of Changes/Blood Rites' side plot); the war with the Red Court would've been delayed, which would have given the vamps longer to prepare; there's a whole lot that can be altered).

There's plenty of room for speculation; many hold that it's Harry's confession of love that is the split. I disagree, but I'm happy to be proven wrong.

raidem:
After reading Amber, there is s huge plot surrounding "I love you" or at least it not being said in time.  So, I do think the grave peril choice will be wrapped up in it.

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