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What do you wish would be done MORE in urban fantasy?
DragonFire:
--- Quote from: Quantus347 on January 31, 2008, 02:37:10 PM --- Michael uses magic, its just powered by God,
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I don't want to derail the thread, but I don't think we've ever seen Micheal use magic.
DragonFire:
--- Quote from: neurovore on January 31, 2008, 04:28:59 PM ---Personally, when I write magic as science it's because it allows the reader to have a reasonable notion of what is and isn't possible, so you can play fair within the ground rules you set up. Magic that is not rational means that whatever difficulties and dilemmas your characters get into, there's always the lurking possibility that one of them can pull a magical solution out of their backside and save the day, even if you don't actually do that; and to me that undermines the possibility of generating many kinds of narrative tension.
Fictional takes on magic where you can hear the dice rolling for the damage the fireball does suck, I have no argument there. The other thing that strikes me as a possibility for magic-as-science, though, and that I've not often seen much done with, is magic-as-science that feels like actual real scientific research does, and has the excitement and adventure of being on an expanding frontier of human knowledge. As a working sicentist in my day job, this is one of the things I aspire to do in my fiction.
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I agree.
It's like in Harry Potter, you have no idea what's possible and what isn't, because there are no defined rules, and apparently, anything you want, really, can be done, with the right word/wand flick.
With 'science-based magic' you KNOW what's possible and what's not, and it lets keep to a far tighter set of ground rules and consequences.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Lightsabre on January 31, 2008, 07:37:59 PM ---I don't want to derail the thread, but I don't think we've ever seen Micheal use magic.
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From GP:
--- Quote ---"Iesu domine!" Michael's voice rang out from beneath the vampires like a brass army bugle, and with a sudden explosion of pressure and unseen force, bodies flew back and up, away from him, flesh ripped and torn from them, hanging in ragged, bloodless strips like cloth, showing gleaming, oily black flesh beneath. "Domine!" Michael shouted, rising, slewing gutted vamps off of him like a dog shakes off water. "Lava quod est sordium!"
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--- Quote ---Michael didn't come down into the lab with me because the whole concept of using magic without the Almighty behind it didn't sit well with him,
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Looks like magic to me. And how Michael isn't a big fan of magic that God isn't behind, which is a distinct difference than him being against all magic.
Ive been meaning to post a thread on the supposed difference between faith magic and normal magic, so ill do that to not derail this one.
The Corvidian:
I will admit that magic might be a religion, as it grew out of the rituals used to appease gods and spirits, its just as time went by, the religious trappings where change, or fell out of use. Some types of magic systems did grow out of religion, look at the folk magic of the Pennsylvanis Dutch, or Hoodoo(an outgrowth of Vaudaun). I'll admit that I have been colored by many things that I have read, and said they are source, but sometimes there are bibliographies in the backs of some of those books. I should find a version of the Golden Bough, and read it. I guess, Bulfinche's Mythology could be a source.
Here are a few scientists who were also wizards.
Dr. John Dee
Sir Isaac Newton
Roger Bacon: magical works were attributed to him
Giordano Bruno
The Corvidian:
--- Quote from: Quantus347 on January 31, 2008, 08:44:07 PM ---
From GP:
Looks like magic to me. And how Michael isn't a big fan of magic that God isn't behind, which is a distinct difference than him being against all magic.
Ive been meaning to post a thread on the supposed difference between faith magic and normal magic, so ill do that to not derail this one.
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Couldn't was Micheal does be called Theurgy, as opposed to Thaumaturgy, which is was Harry does?
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