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peregrine:
And while granted, Nic does lie, he's also said that killing off the Red Court is on his to-do list, as they are an obstacle to his ultimate goals.

raidem:
Thanks Palpatine, I mean peregrine.

thevickers:
...I had forgotten that. And after that is checked off, he calls in a favor from Mab that was possibly blocked before by RCV? Maybe the break-in was also on this check list? That would suck and be completely par for the course if Harry was inadvertently helping the nickelheads achieve their goals. the Charlie Brown of urban fantasy indeed..

peregrine:
I don't think that the Red Court as such was specifically blocking him from any step of his master plan, so much as they were another top level predator and he didn't want the competition, that as long as they were around, he wouldn't have complete dominance.

KurtinStGeorge:

--- Quote from: Quantus on January 31, 2018, 09:08:29 PM ---I would counter that they are all likely 100% "Magic-users", which Id say would include Odin given that trained Merlin.  But we know (per McCoy's description at their founding) that the GC ranks include "Some Wizards. Some Key Allies." which to me means that some of their ranks are specifically not mortal wizards. 
This.  Had any of the twelve at arrived been that discinct from the rest, I would have expected some offhand mention. 

That being said, River Shoulders is a master at Water Magic and at concealment, both of which could solve that problem with trivial effort.

--- End quote ---

Isn't water magic what powers some of Warden Ramirez' spells?  If my memory is correct about Carlos, that could mean that River Shoulders could be more than just a bruiser, he might be able to sling some serious combat spells, or spells that could be adapted for that purpose.  It's been awhile since I read the Bigfoot stories so I don't remember what he could do besides the concealment thing.

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