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Grey Council vs. Circle

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kris.vickers:
Of course, a named character vs background NPC. Named things have power after all.

peregrine:
My main issue is, as was said, River Shoulders would be a noticeable physical figure.  Now, he could have been shape changed, but why, other than to hide his identity from Harry, the only person who would know of their connection?

Also, he's not really shown up much as a character in the main series, so I don't really think Jim would throw a character we've only met in short stories into such a role in the main books.

Given that the Circle/Black Council is suggested to include more than just strictly mortal wizards (Probably a denarian, probably some vampires) it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility to include other flavors of supernatural forces on the Grey as well.

I wouldn't expect to see Gard as one of the 13 though, either.  I don't see anything that she brings to the table that Odin doesn't, just more of the same, and having a subordinate like that basically gives Odin 2 votes rather than 1 for any kind of democracy they do.

Luccio and/or Ramirez would also be good candidates, I would think.  Only question is whether or not they'd be able to slip away and make it to the fight.

Also, someone with the books handy can probably double check me, but Lea and the Knights are very definitively out of the running, yes?  Already there when the rest of them showed up to make 13.

raidem:
Harry was a Knight. Lea there. Oh I see what your saying.

I don't know that 'Fix' would be there. I think it would be more likely that Eldest Gruff was.

peregrine:
Of the Cross, I meant.  My mistake.

raidem:
Yeah, all three swords were there. Murphy, Susan, and Sanya.

Summer should be represented I feel in teh Grey Council.  I think Eldest Gruff would be a good candidate for the Grey Council.  He had killed a few members of the Senior Council before.

Now, he could have been shape changed, but why, other than to hide his identity from Harry, the only person who would know of their connection?
I think the 12 would want to remain generically similar in shape.  They aren't just hiding their identity from Harry.

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